Unemployed to work for benefits.

[Jacob]

Back to the discussion of the original thread.
Straight question. Who is going to pay for all the extra admin and implementation costs? Who is going to pay for the extra training/supervision? Don't forget these extra costs are over and above what we are already paying at the moment.
Not only that but all the back to work schemes that have existed over the years have a very poor record. Money down the drain, except of course for the few professionals that earn a very good living running these rubbish schemes.

It's reported today that back to work schemes have not been viable. It should be obvious that you can't get people back to work if there are no jobs. They are not all shirkers and dodgers in spite of the media propaganda. It'd probably make more sense to just raise benefits - improve peoples lives, boost the economy, increase demand for workers, all in one shot

 

[wizard]

Back to the discussion of the original thread.
Straight question. Who is going to pay for all the extra admin and implementation costs? Who is going to pay for the extra training/supervision? Don't forget these extra costs are over and above what we are already paying at the moment.
Not only that but all the back to work schemes that have existed over the years have a very poor record. Money down the drain, except of course for the few professionals that earn a very good living running these rubbish schemes.

That’s ok they will tax the less well off to pay for it :lol:

 

[wizard]

Come on mod’s this is getting like diynot

 

[Baldhead]

"Hopefully it won't be long before one of the site Mods will spot this tread and removes it."
Why :? Are attempts to solve the problem of long term unemployment an unmentionable subject ?
Wouldn't you rather attempts were made to get them back into employment

Nothing wrong with discussing the unemployed, however this is a political issue and as has already been said, Rule 6 No Politics, also making fun of alcoholics is like kicking someone when their down, alcoholism is an illness, would you make fun of me if you saw me in my wheelchair at the Metro Centre? I think you posted this just to start an argument, this site is for genuine woodworkers who wish to help or ask for the help of others, pontings such as this only bring down the site. I have reported your original posting, as offensive and breaking the rules.

BH

 

[finneyb]

The objective of working for benefits, as I see it, is to get people responsible for their own lives; there is a similar move going on in the NHS to reduce demand on A&E.

Whilst support is needed and should be given for an immediate emergency eg losing a job, it should not be available in the longer term. If you give people a crutch long term it erodes their confidence to stand on their own two feet - the nanny State.

The work for benefits will be for a transition period for the genuine unemployed ie until they get the confidence, work skills etc to get employment. Those 'working for cash' and also claiming benefit will stop claiming benefits pdq as its becomes too inconvenient and interferes with the 'working for cash' job.

Brian

 

[Cottonwood]

Mr Spanton got banned for being too "political" :roll: Good thing too :lol:
Reading this "thread" is entirely depressing
I never knew of any instance when argumentativeness ever changed anyones deeply held views. Just saying....

 

[Noel]

It's 11.29, closing time.