Trumpy

[Jake]

Funny how Trump s getting stick for his alleged comments by the same people that stick up for Bill Clinton and his odious wife who are guilty of far worse,

Please identify the evidence on which you base the suggestion that either of the Clintons engaged in non-consensual sexual activity much worse than Trump's self-admitted to camera behaviour (never mind the rest of the stuff he is accused of).

 

[El Barto]

Funny how Trump s getting stick for his alleged comments by the same people that stick up for Bill Clinton and his odious wife who are guilty of far worse,

Whoa there. Alleged comments? Are you suggesting that the comments Donald has been quoted as saying, that he tweets and is on video as saying, are actually only alleged? That's a new one. A true Donald supporter if ever I saw one.

I'm not sticking up for the Clintons, I think the DNC nomination being taken from Bernie Sanders was very stupid, but in the grand scheme of things, Hillary is by far the lesser of two evils (out of her and Donald). There's a difference between sticking up for someone and making the right choice - Hilary is that right choice in every respect. And as the other post mentioned, what evidence do you have to support these claims? She has been investigated and cleared by the FBI, targeted by both Wikileaks and Russia (although one could argue that in this case those are the same thing) and yet no criminal charges were brought. So if you've got anything I'd like to hear it.

Yes she represents a lot of what is wrong with politics, yes her interest and ties to big banking are very unappealing, but in terms of criminal activity, there is none. Where she represents what's wrong with politics, Donald represents what's wrong with the world.

 

[Claymore]

I'm investing in chicken wire and paper mache, which is closer to what the wall will be made off, it only has to last 4 years.

building a wall that spans 2000 miles, the planning alone will take 3-4 years, by which point he'll be out of power (possibly) and the next president can pull the plug (hopefully)

He has promised to employ cheap Mexican builders :wink:

 

[devonwoody]

Hi Jacob, you must admit he is a hard worker according to that long list.

If he put Winstons bust back in the White House, Trump has joined my list of friends.

 

[Doug B]

I read an interesting article on his wall, all the ins & outs of getting it built.
The one thing that did seem most plausible in such a litigious country as America was the very remote chance of any legal challenges being over in his 4 years in office from the landowners.
The article also suggested it would be built from concrete, millions & millions of tons of the stuff, perhaps someone could calculate the amount of trees they'd need to plant to offset their carbon foot print

 

[Jacob]

Hi Jacob, you must admit he is a hard worker according to that long list.

.....

So was Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot et al.

 

[Rorschach]

Hi Jacob, you must admit he is a hard worker according to that long list.

If he put Winstons bust back in the White House, Trump has joined my list of friends.

That's all it takes, wow you are easily pleased. Don't care about torture, racism, sexual abuse, extreme hipocracy, the list goes on. Just stick the right statue in your office and you are a top chap.

 

[Cheshirechappie]

If Trump is so odious, how come sufficient numbers of American citizens voted to put him in the White House?

 

[RobinBHM]

I wonder how much Theresa May enjoyed holding his hand

What was that catchphase of Paul Daniels.......

 

[Jacob]

If Trump is so odious, how come sufficient numbers of American citizens voted to put him in the White House?

Hitler was quite popular in his day.
History repeats itself - people under stresses and strains of ordinary life lose faith in civilisation and start going tribal - building barriers, blaming and persecuting minorities, falling for crude simplistic solutions offered by megalomaniacs, reinforced by hysterical right wing media, voting conservative, and so on.
People certainly have been let down by the promises of neo liberalism and the lefty 'elitists' have failed to make an alternative case. Sanders probably would have done better than Clinton, if he had had full support from the left and centre.

 

[Jake]

If Trump is so odious, how come sufficient numbers of American citizens voted to put him in the White House?

Difficult to explain and quite worrying isn't it.

 

[Cheshirechappie]

If Trump is so odious, how come sufficient numbers of American citizens voted to put him in the White House?

Difficult to explain and quite worrying isn't it.

This might be a partial explanation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdqdWYjxBpo

(I think there are other factors, too.)

 

[Inoffthered]

If Trump is so odious, how come sufficient numbers of American citizens voted to put him in the White House?

Hitler was quite popular in his day.
History repeats itself - people under stresses and strains of ordinary life lose faith in civilisation and start going tribal - building barriers, blaming and persecuting minorities, falling for crude simplistic solutions offered by megalomaniacs, reinforced by hysterical right wing media, voting conservative, and so on.
People certainly have been let down by the promises of neo liberalism and the lefty 'elitists' have failed to make an alternative case. Sanders probably would have done better than Clinton, if he had had full support from the left and centre.

Hysterical right wing media? You clearly don't watch the BBC or Sky.

 

[RobinBHM]

There was me thinking if Trump wanted to sort out Muslim terrorists in the USA he should go and visit Muslim communities and engage with them.

Apparently the best way to eliminate terrorism is to stop any Muslim from entering the country and torture those that do. Still I cant see how that could possibly play into the hands of ISIS, they wouldnt dream of using martyrdm as a way to expand. What a deep thinking guy!

Got a problem with illegal Mexicans from entering the country, simple build a wall.

Honestly these old style politicians just overthink everything

 

[El Barto]

If Trump is so odious, how come sufficient numbers of American citizens voted to put him in the White House?

That is a good question but one without any one answer, and using the fact that he was voted into power isn't an argument against him being an unpleasant human being. The main reason is that American voters see, or saw, him as a way to escape the stagnation of their political system. When so many towns and cities have been hit by globalisation, loss of jobs to automation and have generally been left behind, he offered them a way out and it's clear to see why they took it. I think a lot of voters probably don't agree with what he says and does, but they're also thinking "things might change under him, I'm willing to let those things I disagree with slide if it means I can get a decent job" (or something to that effect). They don't see a man who has defrauded thousands of people and stiffed contractors over decades, or someone who has offended multiple groups. They see someone who is talking big and acting tough and "taking on" the political establishment.

It is also not a question of "if" he is odious. The evidence is right there to see that he is abhorrent. Either you're a decent human being who sees that, or you're as bad as he is.

 

[El Barto]

There was me thinking if Trump wanted to sort out Muslim terrorists in the USA he should go and visit Muslim communities and engage with them.

Apparently the best way to eliminate terrorism is to stop any Muslim from entering the country and torture those that do. Still I cant see how that could possibly play into the hands of ISIS, they wouldnt dream of using martyrdm as a way to expand. What a deep thinking guy!

Got a problem with illegal Mexicans from entering the country, simple build a wall.

Honestly these old style politicians just overthink everything

Yes it's pretty insane. Especially considering that terrorism by Muslims or Muslim-Americans makes up a tiny portion of murders committed in the US each year. This isn't the most up to date fact but consider last year mass shootings killed 136 people. Compare that with the 50 people killed in America from September 11th 2001 to the end of 2014 by Muslim related terrorism... :?

 

[Jacob]

There was me thinking if Trump wanted to sort out Muslim terrorists in the USA he should go and visit Muslim communities and engage with them.

Apparently the best way to eliminate terrorism is to stop any Muslim from entering the country and torture those that do. Still I cant see how that could possibly play into the hands of ISIS, they wouldnt dream of using martyrdm as a way to expand. What a deep thinking guy!

Got a problem with illegal Mexicans from entering the country, simple build a wall.

Honestly these old style politicians just overthink everything

Yes it's pretty insane. Especially considering that terrorism by Muslims or Muslim-Americans makes up a tiny portion of murders committed in the US each year. This isn't the most up to date fact but consider last year mass shootings killed 136 people. Compare that with the 50 people killed in America from September 11th 2001 to the end of 2014 by Muslim related terrorism... :?

USA toddlers have shot more yanks than terrorists. Lock em up the nasty little psychopaths!

 

[El Barto]

Let's not forget that they're white toddlers...

 

[RobinBHM]

Given Trump is pro gun lobby itd not likely to reduce.

In USA 2017 1,120 deaths by guns, 25 mass shootings (up to Jan 27th)

http://www.gunviolencearchive.org

not as bad as Honduras though!

 

[HappyHacker]

Given the choice of Trump or Clinton I think even I may have voted Trump. Can he really do much worse than some of his predecessors?