Today is a good day.

[deema]

I looked out of the window whilst drinking a cup of coffee to wake me up this morning and it was sunny, the temperature was again above freezing, the birds were flying around and in the field below me rabbits were mingling and lolloping around. The new forest a field over that Cheshire Wild Life have planted, around 50 acres of pure UK native broad leaf trees was casting beautiful shadows of the now bare limbs of the small sapling trees that will be enjoying sunny mornings long after I’m forgotten.

I’m please to see the wonders of the world unfold this morning, nothing much has changed since 2023, and it was just a great to know that despite the world achieving an average temperature rise of 1.6C above pre-industrial world climate temperatures in 2024, that’s above the 1.5C where Armageddon, life as we know it changes promised by so many climate experts didn’t occur in 2024. Turning to my iPad, to read the latest news streams, I notice that the predictions have changed, we now need evidently decades of above 1.5C temperatures to have any meaningful effect.

Tomorrow we can wait with a bated breath for the largest economy in the world to restart ‘drill baby drill’, as a new dawn of right wing politics takes its grip of the USA.

 

[Spectric]

Always good to have xmas behind you and some inkling that spring is around the corner and that doing things in the workshop will be warmer. I am sure for many as we get older we need the sunshine for motivation and to get the old body more charged up. As for whats going on in the states tomorrow it might be interesting but it will not impact my day and should not stop everyone from just getting on with whatever and not getting concerned, for many in later years there is not enough time to waste on something that you have no input on and is better used for more constructive purposes.

 

[Doug B]

 

[RobinBHM]

I’ve been out in the garden digging over a border to plant some spring bulbs: daffodils, tulips, hyacinth etc etc.

Its nice to be outside, it’s very gloomy but I love the fresh air

Although having a dog means I’m out walking minimum of 2 x per day anyway

 

[Jacob]

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The predictions still hold unfortunately, nothing has altered of the bigger picture, though anomalies and variations will crop up all over the place.
Reversing the trend by 2000 was good advice but probably already too late. Warnings were being issued in the 70s

 

[Jacob]

I looked out of the window whilst drinking a cup of coffee to wake me up this morning and it was sunny, the temperature was again above freezing, the birds were flying around and in the field below me rabbits were mingling and lolloping around. The new forest a field over that Cheshire Wild Life have planted, around 50 acres of pure UK native broad leaf trees was casting beautiful shadows of the now bare limbs of the small sapling trees that will be enjoying sunny mornings long after I’m forgotten.

I’m please to see the wonders of the world unfold this morning, nothing much has changed since 2023, and it was just a great to know that despite the world achieving an average temperature rise of 1.6C above pre-industrial world climate temperatures in 2024,
that’s above the 1.5C where Armageddon, life as we know it changes promised by so many climate experts didn’t occur in 2024. Turning to my iPad, to read the latest news streams, I notice that the predictions have changed, we now need evidently decades of above 1.5C temperatures to have any meaningful effect.

Nonsense. No precise date was predicted.
What has been predicted is steady increase of temperature increase with worsening climate change consequences, which are unlikely to be reversed in the short term, if ever.
https://climatechange.chicago.gov/climate-change-science/future-climate-change
It's happening already all around the globe and it's daft to quote nonsense from the Daily Mail etc.
Not much effect in GB of course except for the obvious warming trend and the unprecedented flooding, which will seems likely to make places uninhabitable and uncultivatable, gradually. But things could change as detailed local forecasts have never been as reliable as the general climate trend.
I don't really understand why people choose not to know things.

 

[Terry - Somerset]

Not much effect in GB of course except for the obvious warming trend and the unprecedented flooding, which will seems likely to make places uninhabitable and uncultivatable, gradually. But things could change as detailed local forecasts have never been as reliable as the general climate trend.
I don't really understand why people choose not to know things.

Folk may better informed by some of the major weather events dating from earlier times 1947-2004 and Since 1607

They certainly killed far greater numbers - rescue, warning, building regulations and forecasting services etc have clearly improved but offset by much smaller populations in earlier times.

Blaming every severe weather event on climate change is daft - whether there is a real trend in major extreme vents is debatable as the historic record in insufficiently reliable to form a clear judgement.

 

[Cobbs]

Well it seems we're already hot enough for ostriches, with plenty in evidence, though we may struggle to find enough sand for them all to bury their heads at once...

 

[Jacob]

Folk may better informed by some of the major weather events dating from earlier times 1947-2004 and Since 1607

They certainly killed far greater numbers - rescue, warning, building regulations and forecasting services etc have clearly improved but offset by much smaller populations in earlier times.

Blaming every severe weather event on climate change is daft

It's the change in severity, frequency, etc, which is blamed on climate change.
You are not alone in not quite understanding this, but there is a clue in the name.

- whether there is a real trend in major extreme vents is debatable as the historic record in insufficiently reliable to form a clear judgement.

Is it? Do you have a reference for this?
In any case climate research goes far into prehistory. https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/evidence/
Several things the sceptics can't offer is explanations of how the known greenhouse effect of increasing CO2 could not heat the climate, not affect the weather, and not be an explanation for the clear correlation between CO2 levels and air temperature.
Is there another process at work which the science has failed to uncover?
https://www.climate.gov/news-featur...ate/climate-change-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide
The whole issue is now well established and actually happening.
I don't understand why the sceptics are still burbling inanities. What is the point, you really have nothing interesting to say!
Why not do a bit of reading and research instead of just jumping on the fruitcake band wagon!
PS congrats on picking credible links in your post, but they don't contradict the science.

 

[deema]

The point is not that increased CO2 levels don’t correlate to higher global temperatures, it’s that we have now reached 1.6C, and the world didn’t end. We weren’t all doomed, no mass extinctions, no nations under water. All the scaremongering came to nothing!
The original target was to keep temperatures below 2C, but they changed it to create more focus (read fear factor) to 1.5C. That was an arbitrary number, as nobody could say for certain if that was actually relevant or indeed a big issue. So, today was a good day, the morning was glorious, the snow and icy conditions we’ve experienced here in Blighty which had been unusual cold have passed. There is a lower chance of black ours due to insufficient electricity, which we came very close to as its warmed up.

A beautiful morning makes you just feel good, enjoy life and be glad you were born in the age we are.

 

[Jacob]

The point is not that increased CO2 levels don’t correlate to higher global temperatures, it’s that we have now reached 1.6C, and the world didn’t end. We weren’t all doomed, no mass extinctions, no nations under water. All the scaremongering came to nothing!

You've missed the point. Why not read about it a bit more? What's the point of not trying to understand things?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-68110310

 

[Ozi]

Folk may better informed by some of the major weather events dating from earlier times 1947-2004 and Since 1607

They certainly killed far greater numbers - rescue, warning, building regulations and forecasting services etc have clearly improved but offset by much smaller populations in earlier times.

Blaming every severe weather event on climate change is daft - whether there is a real trend in major extreme vents is debatable as the historic record in insufficiently reliable to form a clear judgement.

As the links you have posted show an increasing trend I don't see your point.

 

[Chris152]

The point is not that increased CO2 levels don’t correlate to higher global temperatures, it’s that we have now reached 1.6C, and the world didn’t end. We weren’t all doomed, no mass extinctions, no nations under water.

Is it just possible that you've misunderstood?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd7575x8yq5o

 

[deema]

Is it just possible that you've misunderstood?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd7575x8yq5o

I don’t think so, I referred to the following taken from the article in my first post.
‘This does not mean the international 1.5C target has been broken, because that refers to a long-term average over decades’

So, it’s a good day, the world continued and apart from a few groups throwing explosives and bullets at each other over dirt or religion or both causing immense misery and suffering for their fellow man, nothing really bad has happened to Mother Earth.

 

[Chris152]

I don’t think so, I referred to the following taken from the article in my first post.
‘This does not mean the international 1.5C target has been broken, because that refers to a long-term average over decades’

So, it’s a good day, the world continued and apart from a few groups throwing explosives and bullets at each other over dirt or religion or both causing immense misery and suffering for their fellow man, nothing really bad has happened to Mother Earth.

So it's a good day because the world didn't end, which nobody predicted would happen? I suppose it's a happy attitude, can't fault that. Are you also happy when you don't slam the front door repeatedly on your own head? Again, I wouldn't find fault with your happiness.

 

[Jacob]

I don’t think so, I referred to the following taken from the article in my first post.
‘This does not mean the international 1.5C target has been broken, because that refers to a long-term average over decades’

You have misunderstood whatever it was you read, and there is no article in your first post. Confused?
Must try harder!
Have you a link to your imaginary article?

 

[John Brown]

I don’t think so, I referred to the following taken from the article in my first post.
‘This does not mean the international 1.5C target has been broken, because that refers to a long-term average over decades’

So, it’s a good day, the world continued and apart from a few groups throwing explosives and bullets at each other over dirt or religion or both causing immense misery and suffering for their fellow man, nothing really bad has happened to Mother Earth.

Nothing bad is going to happen to "Mother Earth". The earth will almost certainly carry on, as will many life forms. It's specifically "our environment" we have to be worried about, not "the environment".

 

[Doug B]

I listen to all these folks saying the world is warming & the ice caps are melting & how all low lying lands will be flooded then I read articles like this https://eos.org/science-updates/new-perspectives-on-the-enigma-of-expanding-antarctic-sea-ice with the supposed experts baffled because it doesn’t fit their models. Add to that that the artic was warmer in the 1920-40s than it is today & it does start to make me question what is being said.

It also makes me question why our government can keep charging us more & more green tax but then send ministers to China to encourage more trade, the same country who in the last 5 years have commissioned 226 new coal fired power stations & in 2023 alone bought $6.36 billion worth of coal from Australia, another country who are shutting all their coal fired power stations & charging the populous more & more green tax.
Is it only me who sees the irony?

 

[Cabinetman]

I’m sure you aren’t on your own Doug.
Anyway just wanted to say all is well here except that it’s bleeping cold! and 8-10” of snow forecast for tonight.

 

[Ozi]

Nothing bad is going to happen to "Mother Earth". The earth will almost certainly carry on, as will many life forms. It's specifically "our environment" we have to be worried about, not "the environment".

We do seem to be taking quite a few other species with us. If the geneticists are to be believed and although it surpasses my understanding I think they probably are the human race has crashed to a few thousand individuals more than once in our history, could happen again, I don't wish to live through it