Titebond II or III

[woodbloke]

My current bottle of D3 PVA is getting a little 'icky' :wink: :roll: as I've been using it now for over 12 months so I reckon it's time to get a bit more glue. Having had a perusal on the Axminster site on glues I'd like to get hold of some TBIII but have never used the stuff. TBII looks like a PVA 'ordinaire' (waterproof) I've used TBI a couple years ago and wasn't impressed, especially when I did some veneering with it and tried to wash off the tape with hot water
So, what do you think about TBIII and what's it like to use? If and when I get hold of some I'll buy a large gallon bottle of the stuff and decant it into smaller containers - Rob

 

[Harbo]

I bought a medium sized bottle of III about 3 years ago and it is still going strong (about half full now).
I like it and have had no real problems with it except it stained blue some Wellingtonia I was working with - I removed the staining with phosphoric acid (Milk Stone Remover!).
I have not tried veneering with it though so cannot comment on that aspect.
It has been reviewed several times in different mags and always comes out well.

Rod

 

[Chris Knight]

Rob,
It dries with a dark glue line that can be a problem in light coloured woods. I have a bottle but there are cheaper alternatives for each of its supposed advantages.

For veneering I prefer to use white PVAs rather than the Titebond family as none of them spread very easily compared with say Evostick Resin W or the specialist veneering PVAs.

 

[The Shark]

Although it glues well, I found the T3 very runny. If you get some, take care when you glue-up, or it has a tendancy to go everywhere.

Malc

 

[Mr Ed]

Rob

I bought some Titebond 3 a while ago and have used it a bit. In terms of its performance as an adhesive its fine, but I can't say that I've found it either better or worse that the standard Evo-Stik PVA.

The big downside is the dark glue lines, which gave an appearance I didn't like on Oak, but was fine on Black Walnut.

Personally I don't think I'll bother again, as I've always found Evo-Stik PVA to do the job - if I need extra strength I go for a Polyurethane glue.

Cheers, Ed

 

[woodbloke]

Chaps - thanks for the replies. As I thought, not a total endorsement for the stuff so I may well stick to the Everbuild PVA that I normally use as can get hold of it from a local 'bankrupt stock' place in town at a stupid price - Rob

 

[wizer]

yes I recently bought some TBII and can't really see any benefits. Everything previous to this has been put together with Lidl UHU PVA and I have had no failed joints.

 

[MikeG.]

I have only tried Titebond 3 on my last 3 or 4 projects, and the big advantage it has over PVA is that it cleans completely off the surface of the wood......no nasty shocks if you use a dark wax, for instance, as you can get with PVA. I like it, and I really like the bottle and its applicator lid........I just don't like the price so much!!

Mike

 

[Paul Chapman]

In the past I've always used Evo-Stik PVA but more recently I've been using UHU PVA which Lidl sell at a very good price. Seems to be just as good as Evo-Stik but at less cost - that's when Lidl have it. They do normal PVA, a faster setting one and a D3 http://www.uhu.de/_uk/indexx.html

Cheers :wink:

Paul

 

[johnf]

I buy a gallon of titebond 3 about every two years use it for everything .
decant it into smaller containers it lasts a couple of years I like the fact it is waterproof for outside jobs ,I am currently making a new cabin door for my boat titebond 3 is the glue

 

[DaveL]

I side with Mike on this one, I a bottle that I have been using, the top is a very good design. I have glued oak and not had a problem with the glue line standing out.
I bought it after my grandson left a toy I made for him in the garden and the rain over night dismantled it. :roll: I have not left anything out in the rain to test it but is supposed to be waterproof. 8)

 

[devonwoody]

titebond 3 sticks.

but it is runny.

But it works well on endgrain mitre joints.

But any joints do seem to expand once glue applied so if the joints are tight to start with they can be difficult to fit with glue on.

But it slips very easily before setting.

I have now purchased my third bottle in 3 years.

 

[lurker]

Long long ago, I visited an obscurely named factory somewhere near Brum, I can't remember exactly where. Anyway they made PVA and the same stuff was filling bottles of all the then common brands.

One another note - I tend to use Evo stick -both types
Recently I made up a Rutlands order with "elmers" it seems good stuff - I like the bottle applicator.

I would not "bulk buy" glue as I think the stuff has a "shelf life" - might be talking my usual rubbish however.

 

[woodbloke]

Long long ago, I visited an obscurely named factory somewhere near Brum, I can't remember exactly where. Anyway they made PVA and the same stuff was filling bottles of all the then common brands.

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I would not "bulk buy" glue as I think the stuff has a "shelf life"

The stuff I usually buy is the Everbuild D3 PVA and I pay £1.95 for a 500ml bottle, which seems reasonable to me. It's a water resistant/proof glue which I use for almost everything including veneering. They also do a 1L bottle of D4 waterproof adhesive, but it actually states on the bottle that the shelf life is limited to about 6 months, so I've never bought any. I think it's a good point about 'shelf life'...a little and often may be the way to go - Rob

 

[Paul Chapman]

I think it's a good point about 'shelf life'...a little and often may be the way to go

I used to buy large quantities thinking it was cheaper that way but had to throw away some that had gone off (can't remember what type). I now buy smaller quantities. I think it's also best to buy it from places where the turnover is rapid - some shops have it on the shelf for years (having to blow the dust off the bottle is usually a giveaway :wink: )

Cheers :wink:

Paul

 

[wizer]

I chucked 3 bottles of UHU yesterday, they had gone extremely thick and lumpy. They where bought 4yrs ago. So the shelf life is quite long.