John. B
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John. B
John. B
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Dave S
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What an *****!! Candidate for the Darwin awards, methinks.
At least it appears he didn't cause injury to anyone else.
Dave
At least it appears he didn't cause injury to anyone else.
Dave
And that bike rider must be a complete *****
Parking in the middle of the road
The truck driver was forced to make an emergency manover
Did the copper think his high vis jacket was a cloak of invincibility
My god I have seen it all now
Parking in the middle of the road
The truck driver was forced to make an emergency manover
Did the copper think his high vis jacket was a cloak of invincibility
My god I have seen it all now
CNC Paul
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Silly billy.
Mod edit.
Mod edit.
Eh, Blister, I think that one or other of us is missing something. It appears to me that the rider is a police officer who is attempting to clear the entry for what appears to be an emergency vehicle, and no, the hi viz is not a cloak of invisibility, but he seemed to be invisible to the car driver, as were the flashing lights.
Other bikers here will tell you that the collision was probably followed by those immortal words 'sorry mate, I didn't see you!'
We've all heard it before.
Roy.
Other bikers here will tell you that the collision was probably followed by those immortal words 'sorry mate, I didn't see you!'
We've all heard it before.
Roy.
NickWelford
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If you've been riding any time, odds are that you will experience something similar. Mine was a stupid woman BMW driver who stopped at the junction and then drove right out in front of me - unavoidable collision. Clear road, excellent visibility - dumb driver........
I've been riding off and on for half a century, including one attempt at assination by a car driver Nick, and I recall a programme on TV some years ago with Kilroy-Silk on the subject of bikers.
Amongst the audience were reps from ROSPA and the Police Federation.
The ROSPA chap stated that bikers who survived became good drivers. The Police Fed speaker was quite adamant that the majority of fatal accidents to bikers involved another vehicle with, again, the majority of accidents being caused by the driver, not the biker.
i have to say that reflects my own experiences.
Roy.
Amongst the audience were reps from ROSPA and the Police Federation.
The ROSPA chap stated that bikers who survived became good drivers. The Police Fed speaker was quite adamant that the majority of fatal accidents to bikers involved another vehicle with, again, the majority of accidents being caused by the driver, not the biker.
i have to say that reflects my own experiences.
Roy.
head clansman
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hi
thats not nice comments guys , that guy was doing his job , he was the outrider escorting an emergency vehicle clearing the road junction a head of the on coming emergency vehicle which really needed to be kept moving, for an emergency vehicle to warrant three escort bikes that must have been a real dire emergency on there hands , blind dozy drivers again can't see for the sake of looking, poor bugger hope he lived. hc
thats not nice comments guys , that guy was doing his job , he was the outrider escorting an emergency vehicle clearing the road junction a head of the on coming emergency vehicle which really needed to be kept moving, for an emergency vehicle to warrant three escort bikes that must have been a real dire emergency on there hands , blind dozy drivers again can't see for the sake of looking, poor bugger hope he lived. hc
My greatest worry is dozy drivers at 'T' junctions. I find myself watching their faces to see which way they are looking, and still they will pull out in front of me at the last minute. In the case of 'lady' drivers usually with a sweet smile and a wave of the hand!
If only they knew wahtt I was thinking! :lol:
Roy.
If only they knew wahtt I was thinking! :lol:
Roy.
OK , time for me to recap on my comments , as a Class 1 HGV driver of over 20 years standing ,
This is how I see it
The Police rider forces his way onto the inside lane forcing the HGV to change lanes , This he does , but having a 44 foot trailer behind him , this does not change lanes at the same time , It gradually goes over following the cab ,
When The driver behind the trailer has enough vision to see a Police bike parked in the road diagonally this car then is also forced to change lanes or hit the bike , All this time the gap between the bike and car is decreasing rapidly , then when the yellow car driver has a view in front after the previous car has changed lanes , Bingo accident , looks like the speed was probably 80 kmh as it is abroad , slip road coming in from the right . I have seen first hand some horrendous accidents while out on the roads of the UK .
I almost had a very nasty accident myself about a year ago
Driving around the M25 towards the A13 slip road following a bulk tipper , I had about 3 lorry lengths between my vehicle and his , next thing I see is the bulk tipper switches lanes , NO brake lights , NO indicator , no NOTHING , and what am I left with ? A stationary lane of cars all queuing to exit the motorway , So what happened , I obviously braked as hard as I could , ABS hissing , I could see I was not going to stop in the distance I had so pulled onto the hard shoulder and avoided a nasty collision , If I had been tailgating the casualty and probably fatality list would have been huge
Another incident when exiting the M25 onto the M11 going up the hill , me on the inside , all the mad car driver in land 3 , One driver brakes , the one behind brakes a bit harder , the one behind him brakes even harder , I could see it coming , I thought accident imminent , and the unlucky one at the end of the braking chain reaction was a Goldwing rider on a trike , Brakes screaming smokeing tyres into the back of a MPV
I also have held a bike license for 15 years had Goldwings / Harlys / Bmws etc etc and yes I have been off down the road twice in the last year , Both NON fault accidents , the last one put me in Hospital and off work for 10 weeks , so I am no novice there
I understand the police advance rider but bloody hell what a thing to do and he could SEE all the traffic heading his way ? and still parks in the road !!!
I also hope he survived , but still say he was at fault
This is how I see it
The Police rider forces his way onto the inside lane forcing the HGV to change lanes , This he does , but having a 44 foot trailer behind him , this does not change lanes at the same time , It gradually goes over following the cab ,
When The driver behind the trailer has enough vision to see a Police bike parked in the road diagonally this car then is also forced to change lanes or hit the bike , All this time the gap between the bike and car is decreasing rapidly , then when the yellow car driver has a view in front after the previous car has changed lanes , Bingo accident , looks like the speed was probably 80 kmh as it is abroad , slip road coming in from the right . I have seen first hand some horrendous accidents while out on the roads of the UK .
I almost had a very nasty accident myself about a year ago
Driving around the M25 towards the A13 slip road following a bulk tipper , I had about 3 lorry lengths between my vehicle and his , next thing I see is the bulk tipper switches lanes , NO brake lights , NO indicator , no NOTHING , and what am I left with ? A stationary lane of cars all queuing to exit the motorway , So what happened , I obviously braked as hard as I could , ABS hissing , I could see I was not going to stop in the distance I had so pulled onto the hard shoulder and avoided a nasty collision , If I had been tailgating the casualty and probably fatality list would have been huge
Another incident when exiting the M25 onto the M11 going up the hill , me on the inside , all the mad car driver in land 3 , One driver brakes , the one behind brakes a bit harder , the one behind him brakes even harder , I could see it coming , I thought accident imminent , and the unlucky one at the end of the braking chain reaction was a Goldwing rider on a trike , Brakes screaming smokeing tyres into the back of a MPV
I also have held a bike license for 15 years had Goldwings / Harlys / Bmws etc etc and yes I have been off down the road twice in the last year , Both NON fault accidents , the last one put me in Hospital and off work for 10 weeks , so I am no novice there
I understand the police advance rider but bloody hell what a thing to do and he could SEE all the traffic heading his way ? and still parks in the road !!!
I also hope he survived , but still say he was at fault
andycktm
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Sorry Digit but that was foolish.
Sorry Digit but that was foolish.
BradNaylor
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I've just watched it a few times and it is quite clear that the motorbike cop is at fault.
He pulls out to block the inside lane in the path of the artic which has to take sudden avoiding action. As the truck pulls over the view of the road ahead is unveiled to the driver of the yellow car like a curtain opening.
There is a bike in the road. The first thought that would go through the car driver's mind would be that the bike was moving slowly across his path. By the time he realises that the bike is in fact stationary it is too late.
The cop is an ***** who probably imagines that his status renders him invulnerable. He should have waited for the truck to pass before attempting his maneouver.
He pulls out to block the inside lane in the path of the artic which has to take sudden avoiding action. As the truck pulls over the view of the road ahead is unveiled to the driver of the yellow car like a curtain opening.
There is a bike in the road. The first thought that would go through the car driver's mind would be that the bike was moving slowly across his path. By the time he realises that the bike is in fact stationary it is too late.
The cop is an ***** who probably imagines that his status renders him invulnerable. He should have waited for the truck to pass before attempting his maneouver.
matt
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I have to agree it was a stupid move albeit with the best of intentions. It was particularly naive given he was a policeman. The driver that hit him did not seem to be particularly aware - no sign of braking or steering around the bike until the very last minute. But then if I were the policeman I would EXPECT for there to be a very high probability of at least one driver like that coming at me.
head clansman
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hi
now watch it all again , no matter where you are we are all required to to drive according (to road)(what is going on about you ) and weather condition the police man did the right thing, his job was to clean that juction of all traffic to allow the on coming emergency vehicle to enter the inside lane without being held back , as he approachs the junction we could all here his siren and see his flashing light as soon as he enters the white lined area he is clearly seen signaling to the first three cars who pull over to the left the lorry driver has a better view of the police man at that point as he can see over the top of the cars in front of him( to much speed (thinking time + reaction time tired ness who knows ?) he then pulls over as the police man is signaling to him to do so as he pulls over the car immediately behind him does so as well, so if he can see that police man so should have the ***** behind him, but again to much speed not paying attention to what was going on (road conditions) whilst approaching a junction plenty enough sign posts , that is driving according to road conditions think not just the car in front but the ones in front of them as well . hc
now watch it all again , no matter where you are we are all required to to drive according (to road)(what is going on about you ) and weather condition the police man did the right thing, his job was to clean that juction of all traffic to allow the on coming emergency vehicle to enter the inside lane without being held back , as he approachs the junction we could all here his siren and see his flashing light as soon as he enters the white lined area he is clearly seen signaling to the first three cars who pull over to the left the lorry driver has a better view of the police man at that point as he can see over the top of the cars in front of him( to much speed (thinking time + reaction time tired ness who knows ?) he then pulls over as the police man is signaling to him to do so as he pulls over the car immediately behind him does so as well, so if he can see that police man so should have the ***** behind him, but again to much speed not paying attention to what was going on (road conditions) whilst approaching a junction plenty enough sign posts , that is driving according to road conditions think not just the car in front but the ones in front of them as well . hc
Dave S
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Whether or not the yellow car should have been able to avoid him, the police motorcyclist was still an ***** for doing what he did.
1. the motorcyclist pulled out in front of a lorry and stopped in its path when he could not be certain that the lorry could safely move to the other lane.
2. any experienced road user, let alone a police-trained motorcyclist, knows that the chances of someone following closely behind the lorry, unable to see and to take avoiding action, is pretty high.
He should have waited until the lorry had passed before moving out into the inside lane, thereby ensuring that the folowing cars had better visibility.
That does not mean, though, that I disagree with the expressed sentiments of HC and others about the poor standard of driving.
Dave (500k + miles on a bike)
1. the motorcyclist pulled out in front of a lorry and stopped in its path when he could not be certain that the lorry could safely move to the other lane.
2. any experienced road user, let alone a police-trained motorcyclist, knows that the chances of someone following closely behind the lorry, unable to see and to take avoiding action, is pretty high.
He should have waited until the lorry had passed before moving out into the inside lane, thereby ensuring that the folowing cars had better visibility.
That does not mean, though, that I disagree with the expressed sentiments of HC and others about the poor standard of driving.
Dave (500k + miles on a bike)
studders
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50/50 fault in my op.
Daft manouver(sp?) by the cop, poor attention to the road by the car driver.
Daft manouver(sp?) by the cop, poor attention to the road by the car driver.
