sugestion needs to purchase door cabinet machinary

[beesondirect]

Hey all ,I want to purchase the required machinaries for making cabinet doors.Where i will get it cheaper.How much price it will incured?approx?All the suggestions are welcome.

 

[jasonB]

What sort of volume are you thinking of. Is it just a one off for your kitchen or are you going to be knocking out several hundred doors a week.

Also what style and finish? hardwood or painted MDF??

Jason

 

[JonnyD]

As Jason says we need to know the style and how many doors you are wanting to produce. As a rule when i make hardwood doors i use virtually every machine in the work shop.

I use a rip table saw, then planer thicknesser, then tenoner, then spindle moulder, Then panel saw for sizing, then wide belt sander, then edge sander.

If you are making face frames as well you may need a morso guilotine and hoffman key setup or a festool domino.

If you are doing contemporary slab doors in veneers where the grain flows through you may also need some veneering equipment.

In terms of cost i suppose i have spent about 30-40K on machinery and hand tools some new some secondhand. Theres a few auctions around at the moment where you can pick up some bargains.

cheers

Jon

 

[crazylilting]

Quick question on the morso machine. I watched the Hoffman videos and like the system however price is an issue. Does the morso machines cut the same way? or only cut to the point and you have to finish the shoulder off yourself with another machine?

 

[FatFreddysCat]

The Hoffman/Morso approach is one way to deal with beaded face frames, but there are others - have you considered something like a hauncher to cut the notch? In any case, cost is all relative. Surely cost depends on volume.

 

[JonnyD]

Hi crazyL i dont know which videos you have watched but this one shows the morso and hoffman machines being used together

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXqORQVgXYs

I think unless you are making face frames all day the cost is the killer.

This is a link to a thread i did using a router table and domino jointer for cutting the joints

https://www.ukworkshop.co.uk/forums/view ... sc&start=0

Cheers

Jon

 

[crazylilting]

Thanks Jonny,
I think i'll stick with the router for now. Feel much more confident now.

Where did you get the bit from and what is it called?

By the way very nice work, impressed.

 

[JonnyD]

Where did you get the bit from and what is it called?
.

Hi the bit is called a mortar groove cutter. The one in the pics is a Trend one but the wealden one here is the same quality but a fair bit cheaper.

http://www.wealdentool.com/acatalog/Onl ... ve_80.html

cheers

Jon

 

[crazylilting]

Thanks so much, i'll phone that order in on Monday morning, you've put my mind at ease. I have two kitchens to do with face frames and wanted to bead them.

I'm using tulip and was quite shocked how terrible the quality of the material is. Is it normal to get some with dark bits in it? To me it looks like popular, a tree a fast growing tree in canada that is considered a waste wood. They do use it for somethings like barn floor boards as it is the only wood cow urine doesn't rot.

Any how it looks like there will be a lot of waste on this job. Do you have to account for the waste on pricing? Wouldn't it just be better to use a light hardwood such as maple or birch? Just some random thoughts after seeing the wood.

 

[JonnyD]

Tulip wood is also known as American Poplar, american whitewood and canary whitewood so could well be the same timber. It is quite common to have black and green stripes in it. I have pretty much stopped using it and only ever used it for painted work.

I generally use beech now for face frames as I feel its better suited to the job paints well and is a lot harder than tulipwood as well.

Cheers

Jon

 

[BradNaylor]

Hi crazyL i dont know which videos you have watched but this one shows the morso and hoffman machines being used together

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXqORQVgXYs

I think unless you are making face frames all day the cost is the killer.

This is a link to a thread i did using a router table and domino jointer for cutting the joints

https://www.ukworkshop.co.uk/forums/view ... sc&start=0

Cheers

Jon

Thanks for that, Jonny.

I've got an Orteguil mitre cutter which I use for mouldings. I've never thought about using it for notching face frames but with a little adaptation I'm sure it will do the job easily if I cut the bulk out on the table saw and then use it to chop out the mitres.

I'll have a go on Monday!

 

[crazylilting]

I generally use beech now for face frames as I feel its better suited to the job paints well and is a lot harder than tulipwood as well.

I will be going that way on the second kitchen as well. I've heard so many people swear by using Tulip that i thought i'd give it a go. I may not even use it on the first kitchen, but don't' know what to do with it it if i don't as it isn't the best to burn, it leaves to much ash.

Any how sorry about hijacking the thread, carry on as if this didn't happen...