Staircase (WIP) starting to install

[crazylilting]

Looks very nice thanks for sharing!!

I have a question though about the top winder detail though. On the landing stair at the left there is a point sicking out, why?

I see this on a lot of stairs in the UK but can't see the point to it at all. If the wall plate was finished under the top tread you could wrap the skirting board around the corner and return it downwards to finish it off and it will look much better then any finishing i've seen thus far.

Is there some hidden purpose to the point?

 

[JonnyD]

Theres no point to the point. It was just left like that as there is a gap between the stairs and the wall where a joist goes through so i wasnt sure of the detailing. it will probably get cut back when second fixed.

I would usually say thanks for the comments but you lot dont seem to be interested in stairs

cheers

Jon

 

[crazylilting]

Well i like them. You've done a great job. Different then i'm used to. I've done a few spiral stair cases in my day, but they are done differently then they are done here, the structure is already there and it is more or less a cladding.

On your comment about the point. Wouldn't it make more sense to not have the point but machine it under the top stair tread and leave the last stair tread off and cut it to fit the opening? As i've only fit one like they make here in the UK i'm not an expert, but inquiry minds want to know.

 

[MikeG.]

Looks good Jon.

CL, that "point" is often left on, but shaped, as a place to stop the skirting board. It is dealt with at "second fix". If it isn't there, then architecturally the skirting may have to follow the string all the way down the stair, which can look terrible. Equally bad is for a skirting to just stop somewhere near the top of the stair, with seemingly no good reason.

Personally, I try and leave the fitting of the staircase a little later than is being done here. Firstly, to protect a nice piece of joinery from site traffic, and secondly, it is easier for plasterers if they can plaster the whole stairwell without the stair in the way. This doesn't always work, though, as the underside of the stair is often plastered.

Anyway, I'm watching Jon. Lots of people watch without commenting.

Mike

 

[paininthe]

It would be easy to leave comments but they would not add much to the post except as a thanks for posting of which i am greatful.

A question which when answered will hopefully add :-

Where does the strength come from, especially in regards to fixings and movement. Is there a reliance on the situ being the giver of the strength. Does the bottom newal? (big vertical post) support the joist / floor above and does it have support underneath the bottom underfloor. The top newal supports the handrail and secures to top floor joist which is the first consideration.

The reason for the interest is my staircase is brick on both sides and i wish to remove the bannister side to open it out - very much like yours.

Thanks again

 

[TrimTheKing]

Nice work Jonny.

One point though, it looks like there's a hell of a lot of work still to be done on site. Are you going to protect the stairs in any way?

Isn't that pristine white paint job going to get trashed by the site guys, who in my experience aren't the most...erm...delicate of creatures!

 

[JonnyD]

It would be easy to leave comments but they would not add much to the post except as a thanks for posting of which i am greatful.

A question which when answered will hopefully add :-

Where does the strength come from, especially in regards to fixings and movement. Is there a reliance on the situ being the giver of the strength. Does the bottom newal? (big vertical post) support the joist / floor above and does it have support underneath the bottom underfloor. The top newal supports the handrail and secures to top floor joist which is the first consideration.

The reason for the interest is my staircase is brick on both sides and i wish to remove the bannister side to open it out - very much like yours.

Thanks again

The big newel is supporting the floor above. This wasnt intentional but there wasnt enough headroom so the trimmer joist had to be removed and the floor supported by the oak post.

The stairs are fixed to the wall underneath every tread and the top step hooks over the trimmer joist and is fixed to that. You shouldnt have any problems opening up your staircase but it will depend on whether the wall you want to remove is supporting anything above. If you post a few pics it will help.

cheers

Jon

 

[JonnyD]

Nice work Jonny.

One point though, it looks like there's a hell of a lot of work still to be done on site. Are you going to protect the stairs in any way?

Isn't that pristine white paint job going to get trashed by the site guys, who in my experience aren't the most...erm...delicate of creatures!

The stairs have been covered with cardboard and the oak parts have been wrapped in cling film to protect them. The white finish is just the primer coat and there is still a top coat to be applied so i am hopefull it wont get too trashed.

Because the newel is supporting the floor above the stairs needed to go in before the plastering but I usually prefer to fit after the messy sods have finished.

cheers

Jon

 

[Doug B]

Excellent job Jonny, thanks for taking the time to post the pic`s especially the installation ones.
I`ve never had anything to do with traditional stairs, though i`ve fitted a few spiral ones, so it`s always interesting to see new techniques (to me).

I usually prefer to fit after the messy sods have finished

I resemble that comment :lol: :lol: :lol: