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Karl

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Has anybody got the Fox SM from Rutlands?

It looks like a handy bit of kit, and having an induction motor would make it much less noisy than the Trend in the router table I have now.

Any feedback appreciated.

Cheers

Karl
 
I think oryxdesign has this or the charnwood version?

There's an article in this months F&C about Router Tables vs Spindles. I've not read it yet.
 
Karl,

I have one, it is ok for small stuff as you are limited by block size and limited power. If you are doing mainly cabinet making as opposed to joinery it is fine. I have a very small power feed similar to the one from Axminster which helps give a better finish.
 
I've got a fox, it is quieter than a router and more powerful. I wouldn't say it's the best made bit of kit but I bought it on offer (£240 I think) to find out how much I would use it. When I have the spare money I'll buy a proper moulder and a power feed.
If there is anything else you want to know or you want to have a look drop me a line or give me a ring.

Simon
 
Can we have some examples of how they can be used. I take it they aren't a direct replacement for a router table?
 
wizer":3g84329e said:
Can we have some examples of how they can be used. I take it they aren't a direct replacement for a router table?

NO!! 8)


It is just a small spindle and uses the same blocks up to about 150mm dia ( I think) usefull for rebates, bevels, mouldings and tennons with the sliding carriage.
 
Tom - i'm not absolutely sure, but I think you can get a router attachment which accepts router bits. So, if true, you could replace a router table with a SM. But i'm sure somebody will be along to tell me i'm wrong shortly!

Paul - it won't be for making windows etc, just rebates and the occassional bit of small moulding.

Si - thanks for the offer. £240 seems like a good price - it's £500 now.

Cheers

Karl
 
Karl":2ourpou9 said:
Paul - it won't be for making windows etc, just rebates and the occassional bit of small moulding.



Karl

I said opposed to joinery......I meant not for joinery, it does not have the power, also it is a bit too slow for router cutters.
 
It runs fastest at 6000rpm which is too slow for router cutters, once you've bought the block spindle tooling is cheaper anyway.
I only really use mine for rebates at the moment, for this it is far better than a router table.
 
That is the main use i'd put one to as well. I think i'll keep my eyes peeled on E-bay.

Cheers

Karl
 
To be honest I think if I'd have paid £500 I'd be disappointed, for that money you can buy a nice big lump of cast iron.
 
CNC Paul":2606hhb4 said:
It is just a small spindle and uses the same blocks up to about 150mm dia ( I think) usefull for rebates, bevels, mouldings and tennons with the sliding carriage.

What about shaped work? I haven't seen a ring fence available specifically for this model. Do you know any different?

If you could shape timber 2"-3" thick then that would provide a huge advantage over using a router table (where you may have to complete the cut in several passes, purchase an expensive cutter or, not at all).
 
Theoretically, could a spindle moulder be used for mitres? e.g the sides of a box? without need for further attention?

We had a thread a while back about router cutters being used for this and the general reply was that router cutters don't have fine enough tolerances to guarantee a tight joint on four corners. So can spindle cutter be made with such precision?

Just a wondern', I'd never fit one in my WS! ;)
 
OPJ":2ahxcp3h said:
CNC Paul":2ahxcp3h said:
It is just a small spindle and uses the same blocks up to about 150mm dia ( I think) usefull for rebates, bevels, mouldings and tennons with the sliding carriage.

What about shaped work? I haven't seen a ring fence available specifically for this model. Do you know any different?

If you could shape timber 2"-3" thick then that would provide a huge advantage over using a router table (where you may have to complete the cut in several passes, purchase an expensive cutter or, not at all).

Olly,

As far as I know there is not one available, but I am sure if there is someone will be along to tell us.

If I need to make large mouldings I do them on my CNC router, but if the need arises to machine them on the spindle I could fabricate a ring fence.
 
wizer":1awjb032 said:
Theoretically, could a spindle moulder be used for mitres? e.g the sides of a box? without need for further attention?

We had a thread a while back about router cutters being used for this and the general reply was that router cutters don't have fine enough tolerances to guarantee a tight joint on four corners. So can spindle cutter be made with such precision?

Just a wondern', I'd never fit one in my WS! ;)

Wiser,

Yes you could.

I am not sure what you mean about fine enough tolerances on a router cutter to produce a tight joint. They would both need to be 45D.
 
might just be my dodgy memory Paul, but I thought I remembered there being a thread that said 45 degree router cutters aren't always precisely 45 degrees.
 
OPJ":38ejc7ps said:
CNC Paul":38ejc7ps said:
It is just a small spindle and uses the same blocks up to about 150mm dia ( I think) usefull for rebates, bevels, mouldings and tennons with the sliding carriage.

What about shaped work? I haven't seen a ring fence available specifically for this model. Do you know any different?

If you could shape timber 2"-3" thick then that would provide a huge advantage over using a router table (where you may have to complete the cut in several passes, purchase an expensive cutter or, not at all).

Instead of a ringfence you could use a bearing and guide ring . If you use a rebate block and a guide ring the same diameter you have a bigger version of a bearing guided cutter Or you could use it with a moulding block and a template. You would need to knock up a guard from Mdf or ply. The only problem i can see is whether the spindle is long enough to take a block and the bearing guide.

cheers

jon
 
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