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Cinimod
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monkeybiter
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Some nice work there, very impressive! There isn't one I don't like.
Any work in progress pics [wip] ?
Any work in progress pics [wip] ?
mailee
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sunnybob":ui0ppe6d said:Funny you should say "pictures", I've just been sorting out my 1000's of pics and came across this one.
My competition rig pre 1997.
Is that a S&W 686 by any chance? I used to have one of those and a few speed loaders too.
Cinimod
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monkeybiter":3i5k2jr9 said:
Hi Mike, glad you like. With regards to WIPs I always seem to get carried away and forget to take photos.
.I have a stock on the go over the coming weeks so perhaps I'll remember :wink: ..........Dom
Mailee, it was.
686 with a davis windmaster barrel, aristocrat 3 position sight rib and full trigger tune. Hogue rubber custom grip.
I shot many 1500 and police pistol comps back in the day.
Heres a side pic. sorry its not good, but its a scan of a 20 year old real photo.
I had quite a lot of handguns before 97. Kept a couple of rifles afterwards.
Cant own anything here except double barrel shotgun or 177 air rifle.
i wish I was as good at clays as I was at handgunning.
686 with a davis windmaster barrel, aristocrat 3 position sight rib and full trigger tune. Hogue rubber custom grip.
I shot many 1500 and police pistol comps back in the day.
Heres a side pic. sorry its not good, but its a scan of a 20 year old real photo.
I had quite a lot of handguns before 97. Kept a couple of rifles afterwards.
Cant own anything here except double barrel shotgun or 177 air rifle.
i wish I was as good at clays as I was at handgunning.
whiskywill
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rafezetter":p9poyxzk said:
Wow! That must have been a very long distance shot. I thought "critters" only lived in the U.S.A. :wink:
mailee
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Ah, yes, I thought it was Sunnybob and I did recognise the Hogue grip although mine had the original grips. Strangely enough I used to shoot Police pistol too and did win a Turkey at one of our Christmas shoots. It has brought back some good memories for me and I will have to see if I can dig out my photos of those years although they were all before the advent of digital photography. I also owned a Colt Comander, Walter PPK, A Ruger Red hawk, along with a 30/30 Winchester and a 7.62 Shultz & Larsen rifle which was based on the old Lee Enfield action. Happy days.
Found another one that showed my guns from around 1994;
from the top clockwise, Marlin 357 magnum lever action carbine.
Webley MkVI in 455 webley.
S&W 686 357 magnum stock apart from the hogue grip.
Ruger redhawk in 44 magnum.
S&W 65 in 357 magnum.
Fiochhi spe target pistol in 22 long.
S&W 686 (again) with a nottingham shooting centre slab barrel and goncalo alves exotic wood grips.
And my all time favourite, A Colt gold cup 70's series national match in 45acp calber, with a gary clark compensater.
I start to cry every time I look at this pic. Dont get me started on Blair.
from the top clockwise, Marlin 357 magnum lever action carbine.
Webley MkVI in 455 webley.
S&W 686 357 magnum stock apart from the hogue grip.
Ruger redhawk in 44 magnum.
S&W 65 in 357 magnum.
Fiochhi spe target pistol in 22 long.
S&W 686 (again) with a nottingham shooting centre slab barrel and goncalo alves exotic wood grips.
And my all time favourite, A Colt gold cup 70's series national match in 45acp calber, with a gary clark compensater.
I start to cry every time I look at this pic. Dont get me started on Blair.
mailee
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Oh Sunnybob, that is some collection you had there. Those Webley's were one hell of a gun in .455 calibre, I seem to remember reading that they were invented for shooting the Fussy wuzzies in the Boar war. Not sure if this was a true fact or not, had to sympathise with the poor devils if they were. :lol: That Colt gold cup was a gun I often drooled over having fired one once. Very nice with the compensator fitted too. You certainly liked the Smith's didn't you? :lol: Got to admit the precision of build on those were fantastic, I remember taking the side plate off mine once and wondering how they could make two parts fit so closely that the join was invisible to the naked eye! I did like my Ruger Redhawk and often used it on the police pistol shoots as it was such a nice accurate gun to shoot. Now that Marlin does bring back a funny thing that happened at a local range when a guy turned up with the .444 version also fitted with a telescopic sight which perked our interests. One of our members asked if he could have a look at it to which the owner replied you can have a go if you like. Tim a friend of mine took him up on his word and raised the rifle cocked it and took a shot.....with his eye very close to the scope, you can imagine what happened next as Tim placed the gun down on the counter and crumpled into a heap on the floor! I doubled with laughter as the owner calmly stated "Glad he put the rifle down first" The rest of us didn't make the same mistake. :lol: I look back on those times with happy memories as we did have so much fun and none of it dangerous despite the nature of the hobby. Unfortunately it is the small few that spoil things for the masses. I gave up mine just after Hungerford managing to sell them before they were taken! Brilliant memories thanks. :wink:
t8hants
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One of the few pistols I have ever shot was a long range thing chambering 30-06 rifle rounds.
It had a long barrel as I recall to comply with the recently introduced ban, and you shot it sitting down in bench they called a 'flying machine' using a scope mounted on the thing.
My score was 9 bulls and an inner at 300yards, and my mate was disgusted as he was some sort of record holder with the beast.
Funny thing is I doubt if I could do it with a rifle.
It had a long barrel as I recall to comply with the recently introduced ban, and you shot it sitting down in bench they called a 'flying machine' using a scope mounted on the thing.
My score was 9 bulls and an inner at 300yards, and my mate was disgusted as he was some sort of record holder with the beast.
Funny thing is I doubt if I could do it with a rifle.
llangatwgnedd
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Here's just one of my three firearms I own.
1969-1972 BSA Martini International MK IV
1969-1972 BSA Martini International MK IV
MarkDennehy
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Mine might be a little less traditional...
Since replaced (as spare parts were becoming an issue) with an upgrade:
Since replaced (as spare parts were becoming an issue) with an upgrade:
Mailee, you have the gist of the 455 story. The previous calibre used by the British army was 38. (not special, just 38).
It was ok at injuring an enemy at close range but couldnt actually penetrate an army great coat if the coat was soaking wet.
When the "fuzzie wuzzie" war broke out, the 38 was totally inadequate as it was the first time the army had fought people who were high on drugs. The enemy warriors would not feel the pain of the small bullets, and could still fight after being hit many times.
So the 455 was hastily engineered in to the officers revolvers. Even then, because the original bullets were quite long and tapered, they tended to pass through flesh without too much of what the yanks call "shock and awe". Better than the 38, but not so much when a machete weilding drug crazed warrior was running at you.
So the final bullet became the 455 webley manstopper. This was a flat nosed bullet (think miniature tin can) of soft lead. When that hit flesh the lead expanded to almost twice its size and produced massive hydraulic shock waves which put down anyone who was in the way, regardless of any painkillers.
When war became civilised and rules of engagement were drawn up (geneva convention), the manstopper was ruled to be "cheating" and therefore the calibre was withdrawn from the army arsenal.
I once got shot by a manstopper bullet. Fired from my gun, by me!
I reloaded my own ammo back then, and was using quite soft target loads on a 25 metre indoor range that had rubber curtains behind the targets to stop splash backs.
I fired the shot and then felt a strong "sting" in my ankle, that made me hop about a bit. The flat nosed bullet had failed to penetrate the rubber and bounced 25 metres back to me.
It was ok at injuring an enemy at close range but couldnt actually penetrate an army great coat if the coat was soaking wet.
When the "fuzzie wuzzie" war broke out, the 38 was totally inadequate as it was the first time the army had fought people who were high on drugs. The enemy warriors would not feel the pain of the small bullets, and could still fight after being hit many times.
So the 455 was hastily engineered in to the officers revolvers. Even then, because the original bullets were quite long and tapered, they tended to pass through flesh without too much of what the yanks call "shock and awe". Better than the 38, but not so much when a machete weilding drug crazed warrior was running at you.
So the final bullet became the 455 webley manstopper. This was a flat nosed bullet (think miniature tin can) of soft lead. When that hit flesh the lead expanded to almost twice its size and produced massive hydraulic shock waves which put down anyone who was in the way, regardless of any painkillers.
When war became civilised and rules of engagement were drawn up (geneva convention), the manstopper was ruled to be "cheating" and therefore the calibre was withdrawn from the army arsenal.
I once got shot by a manstopper bullet. Fired from my gun, by me!
I reloaded my own ammo back then, and was using quite soft target loads on a 25 metre indoor range that had rubber curtains behind the targets to stop splash backs.
I fired the shot and then felt a strong "sting" in my ankle, that made me hop about a bit. The flat nosed bullet had failed to penetrate the rubber and bounced 25 metres back to me.
heimlaga
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Sounds like the British army would need a supply of Vetterli riffles;-)
Those were bought cheap through some middlemen from Swiss army surplus stores and smuggled into Finland in great numbers in 1905 and thereabout to fight the Russians. They are still pretty common in the countryside and usually kept hidden because our stupid government doesn't allow people to apply for a licence on a riffle that doesn't have a paper trail leading to a legal importer.
A Vetterli makes some magnificent holes in things....... a big slow rather fat soft lead bullet..... though the munition supply run dry in the 60-ies so they cannot be used for moose hunting anymore.
By the way we could fit out half an army with the riffles kept hidden in Österbotten. A rather outdated army though. Mosin Nagant and Mauser from the independence war/civil war of 1917-1918. More Mosin Nagant and some Pystykorva from the second world war. Even more Mosin-Nagant and Pystykorva that "disappeared" from army stores after the peace with the intention to fit out a guerilla after the expected (planned but cancelled) Soviet invasion.
As usual with Finnish governments they uphold the official version of reality and pretend that none of this exists......... instead of sorting out the problem once and for all by issuing licenses for de-facto existing old riffles and keeping them under normal gun-control after that.
Those were bought cheap through some middlemen from Swiss army surplus stores and smuggled into Finland in great numbers in 1905 and thereabout to fight the Russians. They are still pretty common in the countryside and usually kept hidden because our stupid government doesn't allow people to apply for a licence on a riffle that doesn't have a paper trail leading to a legal importer.
A Vetterli makes some magnificent holes in things....... a big slow rather fat soft lead bullet..... though the munition supply run dry in the 60-ies so they cannot be used for moose hunting anymore.
By the way we could fit out half an army with the riffles kept hidden in Österbotten. A rather outdated army though. Mosin Nagant and Mauser from the independence war/civil war of 1917-1918. More Mosin Nagant and some Pystykorva from the second world war. Even more Mosin-Nagant and Pystykorva that "disappeared" from army stores after the peace with the intention to fit out a guerilla after the expected (planned but cancelled) Soviet invasion.
As usual with Finnish governments they uphold the official version of reality and pretend that none of this exists......... instead of sorting out the problem once and for all by issuing licenses for de-facto existing old riffles and keeping them under normal gun-control after that.
Casting your own bullets is not difficult, even for rifles.
I'm sure you could buy moulds from america (LEE, RCBS, possibly DILLON) or an engineer could make some.
Old wheel weights are superb for casting, and a small copper disc on the bottom of the bullet (called a gas check) will stop the expanding gases from eating the lead away as it travels down the barrel.
I once fired a 458 weatherby magnum elephant rifle that had home cast bullets. (in fact I still have 1) At that time i was 6ft 2" and about 14 stone and well used to all sorts of guns, but that thing recoiled so bad I had one shot and passed it back to the owner very quickly despite him telling me to keep going. Those big game hunters were TOUGH!!
Single shot rifles in the hands of experienced shots are far more effective than the current "spray and pray" type of shooting.
I'm sure you could buy moulds from america (LEE, RCBS, possibly DILLON) or an engineer could make some.
Old wheel weights are superb for casting, and a small copper disc on the bottom of the bullet (called a gas check) will stop the expanding gases from eating the lead away as it travels down the barrel.
I once fired a 458 weatherby magnum elephant rifle that had home cast bullets. (in fact I still have 1) At that time i was 6ft 2" and about 14 stone and well used to all sorts of guns, but that thing recoiled so bad I had one shot and passed it back to the owner very quickly despite him telling me to keep going. Those big game hunters were TOUGH!!
Single shot rifles in the hands of experienced shots are far more effective than the current "spray and pray" type of shooting.
sunnybob":ijppruqn said:Mailee, it was.
686 with a davis windmaster barrel, aristocrat 3 position sight rib and full trigger tune. Hogue rubber custom grip.
I shot many 1500 and police pistol comps back in the day.
Heres a side pic. sorry its not good, but its a scan of a 20 year old real photo.
I had quite a lot of handguns before 97. Kept a couple of rifles afterwards.
Cant own anything here except double barrel shotgun or 177 air rifle.
i wish I was as good at clays as I was at handgunning.
Still allowed in Finland, I have a gun safe that I don't think I'd be safe posting on a UK board, you guys are worse than the americans when it comes to guns, except in an inverse way.
Part of the reason I'm happy the UK made a brexit. They stood for a huge portion of the attempts at banning or burying people in red tape that are coming from the EU...
we cant get into the "allowed" issue, it will very quickly become political and nasty and then the thread will be closed.
30 years ago I did know a man who served time for attempted murder with a 44 magnum pistol. He was a well respected man, even a gun dealer. But he found his wife had been cheating on him with his best friend and he lost the plot.
He knocked on the guys door with the 44 in his hand. He actually shot the guy 3 times as the man was trying to run back into the house.
He survived, albeit with less internal organs than he started the day with. So much for Dirty Harry and the "worlds most powerful handgun" The shooter got 8 years, reduced for good behaviour.
30 years ago I did know a man who served time for attempted murder with a 44 magnum pistol. He was a well respected man, even a gun dealer. But he found his wife had been cheating on him with his best friend and he lost the plot.
He knocked on the guys door with the 44 in his hand. He actually shot the guy 3 times as the man was trying to run back into the house.
He survived, albeit with less internal organs than he started the day with. So much for Dirty Harry and the "worlds most powerful handgun" The shooter got 8 years, reduced for good behaviour.
You're right about that, the what not to talk about stuff. I learned a long time ago nobodys mind will be changed. I do own a .44 revolver myself, and a lever action rifle in the same caliber. I use them to shoot at metal plates, using home cast bullets mostly.
One of the best mold makers around nowadays is MP-molds, a slovenian guy who makes his molds from brass. I have only his molds. But there are others of course.
One of the best mold makers around nowadays is MP-molds, a slovenian guy who makes his molds from brass. I have only his molds. But there are others of course.
No skills
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Sunnybob
Where abouts did you used to shoot? We had an indoor 25m range at coal house fort in East Tilbury with rubber matt backing. There also used to be a rotund gun dealer with a .44
Where abouts did you used to shoot? We had an indoor 25m range at coal house fort in East Tilbury with rubber matt backing. There also used to be a rotund gun dealer with a .44
