Jacob":a41lekfj said:
Don't forget the special (no doubt essential) jig-specific screwdriver. A snip at just £19.96. :lol:
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Sharpening on stones with a guide
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Don't forget the special (no doubt essential) jig-specific screwdriver. A snip at just £19.96. :lol:
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Jacob
What goes around comes around.
The odd thing about that screwdriver (besides the ridiculous price) is that short screwdrivers are relatively useless and inconvenient (except where space demands it. if working inside a box etc.)Sawyer":1fhs8hh8 said:
So why have they done a short one? Probably because everybody already has several long ones (which would do the job better) but it looks sort of specialised and purposeful. A delusion to trap a tooly! Not far off a confidence trick.
Just when you thought this thread was dead I'm going to drag it kicking and screaming back into the daylight and probably make myself look an eejjiit again.
So the little Metabo hand grinder turned up today. The wheel is shot to pieces but I'd kinda guessed it would be. It'll make a nice tea coaster. Other than that its in remarkably good nick. I'll do a little rust removal on the moving parts, a quick oil and leave the rest alone. Does anyone have a recommendation for a (tiny) 3" wheel to substitute for the stone original? I was thinking a honing wheel rather than a grinding wheel. Any ideas what I need to be looking at?
Here's the laughy part.
I bought the Lidl sharpening wheel. 15 notes. Worth a punt? I picked it up and put it down a few times I'll admit.
Then I thought sod it. I'll have the receipt if it packs up mysteriously in an electrical fashion :-" .
Tried it on a no 6 plane blade that was rotten and needed about 2 hours of wet and dry grinding.
It has a little plastic jig with magnets to hold your blade and you can set it to a required angle. Proof of the pudding is in the eating as they say.
Well, here's the thing. The bigger plane blade won't be accomodated by the guide. it won't travel far enough. so there's about 7 mm it just won't reach. In for a penny I thought. I can grind the rest out later. So, where angels fear to tread how do fools who rush in find it?
Well actually; alright.
Using the guide is a non starter. It's as flimsy and rubbish as you'd expect. It angled the blade okish tbf. I got an approximate 25 degrees. But start sliding it and you're off to hell in a handcart pretty fast. Non starter. As rubbish as you'd expect it to be. Tosh in fact.
So why's it alright? This is a two bob bit of kit. It's not going to compete with a proper sharpening machine is it? Well. here's the thing.Because it's a multi purpose sharpener. It has various plastic attachments. The chisel/ plane at a stretch one, a drill bit one and a knife scissors one. All a bit shoddy. But it has a little motor but the wheels (you get a spare), are made of sparkles and fairy dust.
So you remove the naff plastic guides, toss 'em. Then you get a bit of timber cut to the right angle and affix that bad boy to the aforementioned. Diamond grinding wheel for 15 quid. What next at Lidl? Make your own Spaceshuttle for a fiver? This'll probably last as long as the Lidl Shuttle but for occasional grinding? Fair play. Slowish speed and thin wheel maybe helped to dissipate heat. No over heating of the blade at least to my inexperienced eye. Decent removal rate and not too aggresive. Good catch I'd hazard.
Cheers!
Chris
So the little Metabo hand grinder turned up today. The wheel is shot to pieces but I'd kinda guessed it would be. It'll make a nice tea coaster. Other than that its in remarkably good nick. I'll do a little rust removal on the moving parts, a quick oil and leave the rest alone. Does anyone have a recommendation for a (tiny) 3" wheel to substitute for the stone original? I was thinking a honing wheel rather than a grinding wheel. Any ideas what I need to be looking at?
Here's the laughy part.
I bought the Lidl sharpening wheel. 15 notes. Worth a punt? I picked it up and put it down a few times I'll admit.
Then I thought sod it. I'll have the receipt if it packs up mysteriously in an electrical fashion :-" . Tried it on a no 6 plane blade that was rotten and needed about 2 hours of wet and dry grinding.
It has a little plastic jig with magnets to hold your blade and you can set it to a required angle. Proof of the pudding is in the eating as they say.
Well, here's the thing. The bigger plane blade won't be accomodated by the guide. it won't travel far enough. so there's about 7 mm it just won't reach. In for a penny I thought. I can grind the rest out later. So, where angels fear to tread how do fools who rush in find it?
Well actually; alright.
Using the guide is a non starter. It's as flimsy and rubbish as you'd expect. It angled the blade okish tbf. I got an approximate 25 degrees. But start sliding it and you're off to hell in a handcart pretty fast. Non starter. As rubbish as you'd expect it to be. Tosh in fact.
So why's it alright? This is a two bob bit of kit. It's not going to compete with a proper sharpening machine is it? Well. here's the thing.Because it's a multi purpose sharpener. It has various plastic attachments. The chisel/ plane at a stretch one, a drill bit one and a knife scissors one. All a bit shoddy. But it has a little motor but the wheels (you get a spare), are made of sparkles and fairy dust.
So you remove the naff plastic guides, toss 'em. Then you get a bit of timber cut to the right angle and affix that bad boy to the aforementioned. Diamond grinding wheel for 15 quid. What next at Lidl? Make your own Spaceshuttle for a fiver?
This'll probably last as long as the Lidl Shuttle but for occasional grinding? Fair play. Slowish speed and thin wheel maybe helped to dissipate heat. No over heating of the blade at least to my inexperienced eye. Decent removal rate and not too aggresive. Good catch I'd hazard.Cheers!
Chris
Jacob
What goes around comes around.
So what does it do that you can't do without it? It can't save energy compared to free handing on a flat stone - you only get out what you put in. Which is why it won't overheat - you'd need a big flywheel to get that sort of energy out, albeit briefly.
It saves me about an hour grinding by hand Jacob so yeh to my mind that saves energy. And wet and dry (or whatever media you'd be using) I'm not talking about sharpening fella. So what does it do. It frees my time up to do more interesting things tbh.
Edit. Here's the blade I was doing and this picture doesn't do it justice. Had to do a clean grind about 4mm thick on it.
Edit. Here's the blade I was doing and this picture doesn't do it justice. Had to do a clean grind about 4mm thick on it.
