Scary Sharp Revelation

[Karl]

Tom - I use the "ruler trick" (albeit without a ruler - I just raise the blade a touch "freehand") on all plane blades. It also saves on the requirement to flatten the backs of plane blades which don't have a chipbreaker (block, shoulder, Philly woodies etc).

Cheers

Karl

 

[woodbloke]

I might as well ask here rather than post a new thread.

Before I go back to watch DC's dvd's, can someone please tell me if spokeshave blades benefit from the 'ruler trick' and indeed is it worth doing it on my LV BUS?

I know you don't do it on chisels. Just wondering if there is any benefit over what I've already got?

Yes :lol:
If you're using Matthew's sticky down papers on float glass, then you're half way there Tom. The real revelation will come on Saturday at the GSB when you can use the KIII to see just how good the system is, hence all my blathering in the earlier thread. I agree about the papers tearing...that's the one thing you need to be careful about and it's caused by miniscule bits of crud or a burr on the actual honed bevel, so I now generally just wipe it (the bevel) before honing. If you want to see how to fit the Boggs blades into the Kell, all will be revealed :wink: - Rob

 

[Harbo]

A real challenge is the LV Small Scraper Plane blade with a Guide.
You can hold it with the LV Small Blade Holder but that will not fit the LV Guide nor the Kell III.
Wonder if it fits the Kell II but then again the blade is so short?

Rod

Have fun on Saturday when I will be "enjoying" a 7.5 hour flight!
Do not think I can persuade my better half to allow me to visit TFWW again - the area was a bit scary (and I do not mean sharp!)

 

[wizer]

I'm sure SWMBO can busy herself in Macey's for a couple hours Rod :lol:

Rob, No problems fitting the Boggs shaves in the LV MKII. No bits of wood to set it either :lol:

 

[Ironballs]

Can't believe we're having a sharpening debate again, I blame you Tom :wink:

I still stand by my 3 waterstones and Veritas MkII as verified by my bald left hand

 

[devonwoody]

If we go back 150 years to those beautifully crafted pieces of furniture made with hard wood, I bet they just used elbow grease to get the tools sharp.
This is what the sharpening debate is all about in my opinion, time it takes to sharpen when you want to get on with a job you are doing.

 

[woodbloke]

A real challenge is the LV Small Scraper Plane blade with a Guide.
You can hold it with the LV Small Blade Holder but that will not fit the LV Guide nor the Kell III.
Wonder if it fits the Kell II but then again the blade is so short?

I was looking at this last night and I've come to the conclusion that as it's so small it won't easily fit into any guide and is one of those awkward little sods that'll have to be honed freehand. I can't help but wonder as well if Mr Lee hasn't shot himself in the foot (again) because the blade is so small. The equivalent tilty handle scraper from LN has a decent sized blade that could easily be fitted into a guide - Rob

 

[Boz62]

If using Wet & Dry for scary sharp with a Kell 3, then you are only sharpening on the pull stroke. This means that you only need to clip the abrasive at the far end. This means no spray mounts, and only one narrow flat surface required. Just clip and unclip the abrasive as required. It also means that it is simple to move the abrasive to the side of the support so that you can touch up the rear of the blade as you go with it still in the Kell. Then final polishing with Autosol on a small piece of MDF. And it all takes up less space in a small workshop.

Works well for me. But each to their own.

Boz

 

[wizer]

Good point about clipping at the front. Didn't think of that. Will try it when the PSA's run out.

 

[bugbear]

(Bearing in mind float glass that size can easily be got for free).

Dave

I agree you can get an off cut free, but i doubt you will get the edges ground for nothing, & i wouldn`t want to use a rough cut piece of glass when sharpening.

Heh. SiC, norton india stones and diamond stones (IME) will all abrade glass. Grind the edges yourself!

BugBear

 

[bugbear]

Yes I agree Karl, now. I can't explain it. I get these ideas...

We've noticed!

BugBear

 

[DaveL]

Yes I agree Karl, now. I can't explain it. I get these ideas...

Stop listening to the voices Tom, you know it makes sense. :roll: :wink:

 

[wizer]

I can't get a certain ringing out of my ears recently. My doctor says it's tinnitus but it sounds more like bonimo or gorido or something or other :-k :duno:

 

[Mr Ed]

I can't get a certain ringing out of my ears recently. My doctor says it's tinnitus but it sounds more like bonimo or gorido or something or other :-k :duno:

Only one known cure for that. Let me know once you're bored of it and I'll make you an offer.

Ed

 

[Dave S]

(Bearing in mind float glass that size can easily be got for free).

Dave

I agree you can get an off cut free, but i doubt you will get the edges ground for nothing, & i wouldn`t want to use a rough cut piece of glass when sharpening.

I was lucky in that respect, but if you permanently mount the glass on a piece of mdf you can put a 'frame' around to cover the edges. Rob (Woodbloke) has posted pics previously of the setup he uses for flattening planes - that's the kind of thing I mean.

Dave

 

[Chems]

I'd challenge anyone to get a dulled blade super sharp quicker and easier than I/you can on the tormek. I don't bother with second bevels or anything as when done on the 2 wheels its more than sharp enough to take shavings.

 

[wizer]

I'd challenge anyone to get a dulled blade super sharp quicker and easier than I/you can on the tormek. I don't bother with second bevels or anything as when done on the 2 wheels its more than sharp enough to take shavings.

All for just £400 :roll:

 

[Mr Ed]

My PSA lapping film has arrived from Matthew, so I'll start experimenting with it over the next few weeks.

Ed

 

[Chems]

I'd challenge anyone to get a dulled blade super sharp quicker and easier than I/you can on the tormek. I don't bother with second bevels or anything as when done on the 2 wheels its more than sharp enough to take shavings.

All for just £400 :roll:

People in glass houses, how much have you spent to date? I've spent £230 an won't need to spend another penny for any other jigs.

 

[wizer]

how much have you spent to date?

£45