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[Farmer Giles]

It looks like I have sold my Elektra Beckum PK200 to my neighbour who is about to start making bee hives. It's been a good saw but I wanted something older, I just like old kit, also means I will get proper mitre slots.

So I bought this Wadking AGS 10 from the bay of fleas, £300 plus transport on a pallet, came to just over £400.

It survived the journey fine, the seller did a fantastic job of packing it onto a pallet, for future reference this is the way to do it. Take the fence and bars off. Lay the saw on its side, put the fence and blade guard inside and stand the bars up.

In the short term I will be using this on the new kitchen, but after that I will take it apart and renovate it.

However, my saw adventure had not finished, I bought this Metalclad morticer which I will renovate, subject of a future thread. Interesting company, made in Neath and part of the early 600 group.

and it came with this saw, a "Bitco" which I have never heard of before, if you have any information, let me know please!

Not sure what to do with the saw yet, I will give it a once over, clean it up and get it going then decide how useful it is to me. Could be OK for ripping big boards down, it has a 4 HP motor on it so should be powerful enough, I can sort out a fence.

Cheers
Andy

 

[TFrench]

Nice score! The big ripsaw looks mildly terrifying! :shock:

 

[sunnybob]

I distinctly recall telling you I wasnt jealous. #-o

 

[Farmer Giles]

Sorry Bob, I didn't mean to make you not jealous

Yes, I know I am completely mad, but I seem to have bought another saw! This time an AGS 12. Why you may ask, a very sensible question, one that her indoors also asked.

Well it was in good nick, it was close by, it had a decent mitre with it, has extraction and a foot switch, and has both small cast table extensions and cheap - convinced yet?

So, what to do with the AGS 10. Well it is 3 phase, but I just found this in my pile of old motors, it came off a Tom Senior milling machine I bought years ago. It works fine, but was double the speed the mill should have had.

Its a 3hp single phase motor, and purely by chance came off an ex-Wadkin machine. AGS 10 normally have 2hp but I guess as long as it physically fits it won't matter. I shall then sell it, I'm guessing single phase machines fetch more than 2 phase. It may take a while to do though, I'm under orders on the kitchen. I could put it on the AGS 12 but I have 3 phase already so no big deal.

Righto, off to pick up the AGS 12

Definitely my last machine..................this month!

Cheers
Andy

 

[wallace]

At least the courier gods are looking down on you. I've had loads of problems, a machine fell over in transit and smashed the handwheels, a newly restored machine fell over when being collected and I paid a guy £50 just to make sure a machine was on a reinforced pallet and properly secured. It was delayed 2 days because the couriers had to restrap it. The guy had put one piece of plastic strap to hold a 750kg machine. :shock:

 

[sunnybob]

Ship the single phase one to Cyprus and i'll donate 750 to your machinery addiction fund. :roll: :roll:

 

[Farmer Giles]

At least the courier gods are looking down on you. I've had loads of problems, a machine fell over in transit and smashed the handwheels, a newly restored machine fell over when being collected and I paid a guy £50 just to make sure a machine was on a reinforced pallet and properly secured. It was delayed 2 days because the couriers had to restrap it. The guy had put one piece of plastic strap to hold a 750kg machine. :shock:

Ouch! not nice!

It's a small world, the guy who sold me the AGS 12 know you, he's called Bruce and I believe you have his PK mitre on loan. His workshop is out of this world, I am in awe. The furniture he makes is beautiful too

 

[Farmer Giles]

Ship the single phase one to Cyprus and i'll donate 750 to your machinery addiction fund. :roll: :roll:

Why is it so expensive to ship stuff to Cyprus?

 

[sunnybob]

The problem is there are many steps and each one has a man holding his hand out. :roll:

From here, I need to pay a courier to collect it (and wrap it). then I need to pay for it to be delivered to the port. then I need to pay for the shipping. then I need to pay someone at this end to get it through customs (NOT an easy task now, let alone AFTER march :shock: ) Then I need to pay someone to courier it from the customs to me.
from 400 upwards depending on agents.
I had a saw almost bought last year, the man on here (sorry old age means I've forgotten his name) was prepared to wrap it and pallet it. The local to him agents quoted 200 quid. Done deal I thought. Then the agents mentioned they "might not" have a tail lift vehicle handy, and if not I had to pay for a THREE man team for the day to get it into the truck. And on and on.
add that to the price of a wadkin 12" which are now going up on ebay for almost a grand, and you see why I'm just not at all jealous. (hammer) (hammer) honestly. 8)

 

[MusicMan]

Even I am getting not jealous, with my single AGS10 without big side panels (which I wouldn't have space for anyway...)

 

[Farmer Giles]

I'm glad you are all not jealous, I can rest easy at night now, otherwise I may have been driven to drink

We had to take a lot of it apart to get it up through the hole in the workshop floor, the fence rail, dust collection box etc. it was just a couple of inches too long with those cast tables attached so had to lift at an angle.

But it is now up, there is a little bit of tarting up to do but I saw it running, and all was well so I will put it all back together and use it for the kitchen then sort out the bits of paintwork needed in the summer.

Cheers
Andy

 

[sunnybob]

I've heard of Bats in the Belfrey, but two wadkins in the loft is just plain daft. :shock: =D>

 

[Farmer Giles]

I've heard of Bats in the Belfrey, but two wadkins in the loft is just plain daft. :shock: =D>

Not for long, I'm hoping to sell the AGS 10 quickly, it's a good machine and with the single phase motor and NVR switch I have I just need a double pulley for the 24mm shaft and I can convert it to single phase pretty quickly. That doesn't seem an issue, I can bore out a blank one and broach a keyway or use the taper lock bush type.

Here's the AGS12 now I've got it partly assembled

It came with a Kreg precision mitre/fence

needs a new crown guard

and possibly riving knife, this one has been modified to be used with a sled I believe, I'll check it tomorrow

it came with a foot switch which I tested, worked well. There is a lever at the top right, It operated something via a cable, I'm not sure as I can't find this in any manual, but it could be a spindle lock so you can change blades?

Here's where the cable ends

and this is the extraction cabinet, this will go back on once I have checked the belts and the rise/fall mechanism etc.

Cheers
Andy

 

[memzey]

Nice haul! Each of those Wadkins is enough saw for most people’s lifetimes. Well done on finding them and putting them to use. The unidentified lever is for a hand brake by the way.

 

[Farmer Giles]

Thanks for that Memzey, not ideally located if you've just chopped your right hand off! So I guess more for convenience than safety

I'm thinking of dropping the blade guard from the ceiling along with an extraction hose, keeps it all out of the way.

Cheers
Andy

 

[Trevanion]

Thanks for that Memzey, not ideally located if you've just chopped your right hand off! So I guess more for convenience than safety

When I was in college there was an old Wadkin BSW Rip Saw which had a 20" blade, It had a DC brake so it would stop in a couple seconds but if you isolated the power to the machine while it was running it would take upwards of 10 minutes to come to a halt.