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For the last strokes of precision filing I find it helpful to sit down so I can see the scribed line etc. (work then at eye level)

Impulse hardened blades cannot be easily cut by the file so make a good template for tpi changes
 
Can anyone tell me if there is a saw tooth configuration, for western style saws, that minimises splintering when cutting across the grain? Has anyone experimented with alternating cross-cut and rip teeth for example (read about this somewhere, I think, but don't really know what it's supposed to achieve).

Joel
 
Hi Joe,

For really clean cuts you need to be dropping the file handle down as well as angling it to introduce a really fine needle sharp point to the tooth.
If you imagine a compound mitresaw, by tilting the head and rotating the base, you end up with a really sharp compound angled point. The same applies when filing a saw.
In general, crosscut filing is a simple as angling the file to get a forwards facing point, keeping the file horizontal as you make the stroke.
Dropping the file handle down by ten degrees or so makes the point sharper, but in doing so, it becomes more fragile as here is less metal behind it to support it as it cuts. You can get incredibly sharp and fine cuts this way, but it's not ideal on dense hardwoods or knotty timber as it soon takes the edge off.
Next time i'm sharpening a saw i'll do one this way and post the pics.
An alternative is to drop the handle down when sawing so you are sawing relatively flat.
This is not so aggresive as a normal sawing action and doesn't rip the fibres as readily.
Hope this helps.

Andy
Andy
 
Thanks for this Andy, I'd definitely be interested in seeing some photos if you get round to it. I've just sharpened up an old Tyzack no.4 which I picked up from the local tool shop for the princely sum of £2. It's in good condition - when I cleaned the rust off I was pleased to find the original trade marks still visible on the blade. As well as the Tyzack TM there is one for John Hall Tools at Bridge Street, Bristol. This shop was destroyed by a bomb in 1940 so I guess the saw predates this.

Joel
 
Joe":59xra176 said:
Can anyone tell me if there is a saw tooth configuration, for western style saws, that minimises splintering when cutting across the grain?

If there were an easy-to-file cut that did this, it would be the normal one.

Since it isn't, there isn't :)

BugBear
 
Cracking photos BB, very very impressive!

There was a thread a while back about rip tooth dozukis which I tried to reply to with photos but after an hour and a half of trying to photograph the damned things gave up!
 

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