Recent restorations & repairs on a few Backsaws...

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Richard Groves and Sons backsaw with a broken horn on a beech handle:

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The horn ended-up looking more like a plane tote than a saw handle, but I learned from it! Nevertheless, it is very comfortable in the hand. After use, I can see why these saws are well-regarded:

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Tyzack Sons & Turner Dovetail saw post restoration. Another fine little saw:

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A large Henry Disston & Sons Tenon Saw with broken apple handle:

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I had no apple in stock, so I used cherry. A fairly close match:

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Can you spot the repair?

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This is now one of my favorite backsaws. The teeth were filed "general purpose"; 15 degrees of rake & 10 degrees of fleam. Rips adequately and cross-cuts quite well. I may modify that in the future.

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This is great.
It is inspiring me to have a go at the brass backed Spears and Jackson that has been lurking around rustily in the workshop.
I have been a bit scared to remove the screws/ nuts .
 
This is great.
It is inspiring me to have a go at the brass backed Spears and Jackson that has been lurking around rustily in the workshop.
I have been a bit scared to remove the screws/ nuts .
Go for it!
Find a properly-sized screwdriver/turnscrew and apply firm steady pressure. I dedicated several screwdrivers for use on split-nuts by grinding a slot in the center. A good fit in the screw slot is key. Most of my better screwdrivers are hardened. The slot can be ground with a Dremel-type tool, or a cut-off wheel on an air grinder. Files will often skate off. You will probably then need to carefully narrow the screwdriver blade to fit your nuts. This can be accomplished on a bench grinder.
I have yet to break a screw, even on older split-nut saws (knock on wood, as we say around here). I have found some of the brass screws have very little thread remaining, yet amazingly, they hold solidly when reapplied. If you break a screw, it is not the end of the world. Replacements can be purchased (expensive) or shop-made.
http://blackburntools.com/new-tools/new-saws-and-related/saw-bolts/index.html
https://www.amazon.com/Taytools-115720-Solid-Replacement-Handsaws/dp/B07CJSZXSX
There are many videos on YouTube detailing the process of restoration.
Best of luck!

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Here is the one in need of attention, turns out its a Robert Sorby not a Spiers and Jackson.
I rescued it from a relatives garage as she was moving house and it nearly went in the skip.
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It does actually cut and I don`t think its been used much just neglected in a damp garage.
However the nuts look a bit scary and I think I will need to grind down a screwdriver as they are long but really thin slots.

Shall I give everything a good soaking with penetrating oil for a week before doing anything?
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Here is the one in need of attention, turns out its a Robert Sorby not a Spiers and Jackson.
I rescued it from a relatives garage as she was moving house and it nearly went in the skip.
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It does actually cut and I don`t think its been used much just neglected in a damp garage.
However the nuts look a bit scary and I think I will need to grind down a screwdriver as they are long but really thin slots.

Shall I give everything a good soaking with penetrating oil for a week before doing anything?
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Ollie,
You are going to be so pleased with the result of your efforts. I have restored quite a few, and I can see that one will turn out very nicely!
Read through the excellent post from deema (above-linked). He has outlined the "how to" and clearly has a thorough understanding of saw restoration.
Yes, some penetrating oil around the screw-heads is a good idea. Don't worry if the saw plate has a little pitting, it will continue to cut well.
I am looking forward to a few pics of your results! :)
 
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