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[devonwoody]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7746174.stm

(1) I would suggest the government create a compulsory work scheme.

(2) Continue the present situation.

(3) The single mother could have another baby and she would be back in benefit and not need to seek work for another seven years.

What suggestions can you make, a good one could be forwarded on?

 

[Rich]

This is a difficult one DW, My wife thinks that if the children are of school age then the parent/s should be made to carry out community service at the very least.
For my money I would stop benefits altogether( apart from the OAP's and the disabled,) this then might lead to a mass of immigrants leaving this country, more jobs for the indigeouness population, this in turn would lead to less benefit payout giving the government more in the coffers allowing them to cut taxes and giving you and me more to spend thus making the economy pick up. A radical solution I'll grant you and will be very unpopular with some, but you did ask, so there you go.

Regards,

Rich.

 

[Karl]

(3) The single mother could have another baby and she would be back in benefit and not need to seek work for another seven years.

Why not give her a forced sterilisation so that she can't keep on squiting 'em out...

Cheers

Karl

 

[Jenx]

My suggestion ... Stop blaming eveyone else / every thing else..

"Oh ah wiz goany go tae the army, bu ah didnae think ah hud the right qualificashuns so that kinna fizzled oot" ...

Did you even remotely try ?

1000/1 says that idea never got any further than that sentence.

Easterhoose.
AKA "Disneyland."
as in : Disney pay the rent,
Disney pay the electric
Disney pay the Provie Loan....

When you stand an point a finger, Lady... three of yer fingers are pointing BACK at the real guilty party.


coat already zipped. :wink:

 

[MIGNAL]

Of course the problem of forcing people into compulsory work is that it's fine providing it's not replacing the job that you happen to be in.
In other words ALL professionals such as teachers, lawyers, doctors policemen et al are safe. It's the unskilled workers who's jobs are at risk. Pretty much the same people who are vulnerable to . . . unemployment.
I guess that's alright. The professionals will love it.

 

[Rich]

Of course the problem of forcing people into compulsory work is that it's fine providing it's not replacing the job that you happen to be in.
In other words ALL professionals such as teachers, lawyers, doctors policemen et al are safe. It's the unskilled workers who's jobs are at risk. Pretty much the same people who are vulnerable to . . . unemployment.
I guess that's alright. The professionals will love it.

D0 you consider plumbers, sparkies, glaziers etc as unskilled, everybody has the chance to make their way in life, some choose not to, I don't think I should be paying for their lack of wanting to pay their own way in life, after all, I don't ask THEM to pay MY bills.

Regards,

Rich.

 

[MIGNAL]

Of course the problem of forcing people into compulsory work is that it's fine providing it's not replacing the job that you happen to be in.
In other words ALL professionals such as teachers, lawyers, doctors policemen et al are safe. It's the unskilled workers who's jobs are at risk. Pretty much the same people who are vulnerable to . . . unemployment.
I guess that's alright. The professionals will love it.

D0 you consider plumbers, sparkies, glaziers etc as unskilled, everybody has the chance to make their way in life, some choose not to, I don't think I should be paying for their lack of wanting to pay their own way in life, after all, I don't ask THEM to pay MY bills.

Regards,

Rich.

That's not the point I'm making. Plumbers, sparkies are unlikely to be affected by forcing the unskilled unemployed to work. Street cleaners might. So why should street cleaners (and a lot of other similar workers) have their jobs threatened because the local authority/government can simply dip into the unemployed for cheap labour.

 

[devonwoody]

So Mignal what is your solution 1,2 or 3 or other.

 

[Rich]

I don't know the answer to that one Mignal :?

Rich.

 

[devonwoody]

I don't know the answer to that one Mignal :?

Rich.

How about an entirely new workforce of ??????????

 

[Rich]

I don't know the answer to that one Mignal :?

Rich.

How about an entirely new workforce of ??????????

Isn't that what new labour have been doing for the last decade? I fear we are venturing into politics here DW, You know we're not allowed to do that

Rich.

 

[devonwoody]

No politics wanted just a laymans solution or idea.

 

[Rich]

Well mate, I have given mine, I'll move aside and let others come up with theirs.

Regards,

Rich.

 

[Digit]

One thing that puzzled me was the son. Served in the forces, and then, nothing. I wonder why?
Being forced to find a job could just be what the good lady needs but, with the best will in the world there will always be lead swingers. Who will employ a reluctant worker? One forced to get out of bed, I've met a few experts in my time and I doubt there is an answer to them.
The Daily Mirror once interviewed a young chap who said he turn to robbery rather than work.

Roy.

 

[devonwoody]

Overnight idea, I think they should not be given any cash, so to eat they have to walk 5 miles east to get there breakfast, return home, walk 5 miles west to get there mid day meal, return home and walk 5 miles east to get there last meal. (Passing many open air eateries on the way where people are eating fillet steak etc. They might get the taste for working to get on to better eating routine. )

 

[cant-weld-wood]

i think them problem comes down to goverment in the first place.
more and more people coming to this country seeking asylem they should be sent straight back.
its this that is bring the country down these are the people that are taking hand outs in this country and have paid no taxes at all in this country.
and they get all the benefits.
the last time i was in the unemployment office signing on (a few years ago now) i mentioned this and they guy i was talking agreed with me and even stated there is more they are getting that a lot of people dont know
about and most in the offices hate having to sort claims for them.
and say they dont deserve any of it and should not be here

 

[devonwoody]

Most are sent back but it takes around ??? years.

I didnt want this thread to spread to criticising government and their policies,

 

[cant-weld-wood]

thats my bit and i say no more a bout them trying to run this country.

i am on benefits but am classed as employed as we have two kids
that are mildly autistic i am a carrer for one of them and the misses is the carrer for the other.
i would love to go back to work but the motor trade is suffering
a few of my friends have there own buisness one of the has now given it all up and gone to work for some one else.
its getting bad in this country on the job front and yes there is people that should be working and not claiming.
money in my house is very stretched all year round and this year is worse.

 

[devonwoody]

I think what is the goal is trying to get those that wont work to work, especially long time shirkers.

 

[cant-weld-wood]

as i have said i would love to go back to work but with 2 autistic kids it is just not possible.
this is the only reason i am not working at the moment not because i dont want to work.
i would love to get back building race cars and hot rods again but then a nice cleaner job working with wood would be better.