Re-cycling MDF

[MrYorke]

Sorry, I don't want to start an arguement and will say no more.

As someone who is daily involved in people's health at work I have a thing about proportionate responses to percieved hazards.

I agree completely.

What is 'common sense' to one isn't to another. Without the requisite evidence how do you know for example that the temperatures involved don't negate the impact of any glue residue?

Does my head in when people ask questions like yours.

And it does my head in when people make statements like yours so we're even then?

Even stevens ;-)

Think I need a coffee for waking up the wrong side of the bed.

 

[petermillard]

H.S.E. document on MDF can be found here. Short version - it's hazardous, but mostly due to the softwood/hardwood it contains; formaldehyde a non-issue in EU-sourced boards. It's been said before, but you'll have more exposure to formaldehyde from a cheap far-eastern shirt straight out of the packet or no-brand shampoo than you will from MDF.

Cheers, Pete

 

[novocaine]

Material Safety Data Sheet for MDF.
http://www.sierrapine.com/media/module/ ... _Sheet.pdf

parphased below

'Section 10: .STABILITY AND REACTIVITY

HAZARDOUS DECOMPOSITION:
Thermal and/or thermal-oxidative decomposition can produce irritating and toxic
fumes and gases, including carbon monoxide, hydrogen cyanide, polynuclear
aromatic hydrocarbons, aldehydes and organic acids. '

Another MSDS
http://www.medite-europe.com/images/upl ... 1_2012_(v2).pdf

parphased below
'Section 10: .STABILITY AND REACTIVITY
10.3 Hazardous thermal decomposition products: Decomposition products may include the
following: - Carbon Monoxide (CO), Carbon Dioxide (CO2) and Nitrogenous gases may evolve
during combustion'

small quantities though, so you'd need to burn a lot of it before seeing any real effects. not enough of a concern to me to say you shouldn't burn it.

note: differences between the two above statements is due to differences in composition.

 

[Jacob]

On other words is probably about as toxic as burning wood, and probably a lot less toxic than coal.

 

[novocaine]

On other words is probably about as toxic as burning wood, and probably a lot less toxic than coal.

pretty much.

 

[Zeddedhed]

Fair enough. I can't argue with the evidence.

I still maintain it stinks though.

I dont have a huge burner and the flue is only about 3 metres above ground level at it's highest point (low lying single storey workshop) so maybe that's why I smell it more.

Or maybe I stink of burning tyres and it's me!!

Or maybe Jacob can't smell.

Or maybe something else - who knows.

 

[MrYorke]

Think I need to get a wood burner

 

[lurker]

Just a an irrelevant bit if information, which may show common sense cannot be trusted.
One coal fired power station emits more radioactivity into the atmosphere in one month than all the uk nuclear power stations have done since they came into existence.

 

[Zeddedhed]

Just a an irrelevant bit if information, which may show common sense cannot be trusted.
One coal fired power station emits more radioactivity into the atmosphere in one month than all the uk nuclear power stations have done since they came into existence.

Personally I think common sense and the trusting thereof is fine when it only concerns/impacts oneself.

As soon as there is the potential for others to be adversely affected by your 'common sense' then a good dose of hard evidence chased down with a liberal application of research and factual information is essential. Prudence and caution would also be prescribed.

 

[Alex54542]

It’s vital that the new processing technologies are developed further and put into widespread commercial use; then perhaps MDF can be made as environmentally friendly as it is affordable, how long we will be waiting .....

Who knows

 

[Sheffield Tony]

Just a an irrelevant bit if information, which may show common sense cannot be trusted.
One coal fired power station emits more radioactivity into the atmosphere in one month than all the uk nuclear power stations have done since they came into existence.

Sophistry. Of course nuclear reactors don't emit radioactive waste to the atmosphere. They add it to the ever growing pile at Sellafield, with no idea what to do with it in the long term. Since it will need to be kept contained, cooled and secure for hundreds if not thousands of years, nuclear power could be seen as borrowing from future generations. But we digress.

 

[davin]

Don't know the reason or the science behind it, but I do l know that moisture resistant MDF just gives me an instant headache and makes my skin tingle, even when it's in the back of the van. Maybe I have become over sensitive through using it too much.
Try to persuade customers to go for Birch ply instead but ...... price