Re-Built a Jointer... Damn!

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Derek Cohen (Perth Oz)

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Some of you may recall the razee jointer I built and posted here about a month ago. I was very pleased with the way it came out – it performed as well as I could ever have wished – but it was the longest plane I had built at that time and the placement of the tote was a toss up. I went for balance, with the result that the tote was placed further back on the body than vintage razee jointers. I noted that this was similar to Steve Knight’s razee.

However, Mike Wenzloff disagreed with the placement, saying it was too far back. I decided that I would try out the arrangement for a month, then report. So, to Mike I say ‘Damn your eyes! You were right!!”. With the tote far back the plane was balanced - but it lacked control.

There is nothing I dislike more than redoing perfectly good work. How often do you accept that a part is just not good enough, and pull it apart? How much of a perfectionist are you? Well, I did not change the tote once - I changed it twice. Sort of.

Here is the original tote and placement on the body.

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Ok, those who are squeamish avert your eyes.

The unkindest cut of all ..

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The old tote came off cleanly.

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It must be said that I did not like the original tote (and neither did Philly). Somehow it came out differently to my plans. It lacked the curvy look I prefer. The top was too straight and just looked pointy rather than extended. So I decided that I would rebuild this otherwise perfectly sound tote.

Out came the files and rifflers. I really must buy some decent rasps. I do not own a Nicholson #49 or #50. I do not own an Auriou (I think I need a birthday present like Alf received). All I have is a rather coarse Nicholson rasp, several Nicholson files and this set of no-name rifflers. Why do rifflers hardly rate a mention. They are great!

No turning back now …

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Done …

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A tip for sanding – old sanding belts are great. Slice them up and pretend you are shining shoes.

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Up to this point I had planned to glue-and-screw the tote to a tenon and glue it into the body of the plane. But I got to thinking about the strength would probably be fine but, all the same, I would make another from scratch. Which I did. Cut out the shape, including tenon, on the bandsaw, and out came the rifflers and files once again.

And here it is – pre finish:

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And finished ..

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And a close up of the tote:

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Jarrah was again used here, but the finish was altered to include a wash in black dye to create a contrast between tote and plane body. There is no way of disguising that a repair has been made. Under such circumstances I prefer to exaggerate the differences and turn it into a feature.

Some days I think that woodworking is more about correcting something old than building something new.

Regards from Perth

Derek
 
nice one derek again, now you have discovered the correct place and shape, are you going to make another one :lol: :lol:

actually maybe next time you are experimenting, you should cut a mortice of the length that you have on this, and make the handle with a tenon which is separate from the handle, and allows you to move it up and down the slot until it gets to the right place :twisted: :roll:

actually the contrast makes the plane look better i think, with that inset.

congratulations again

paul :wink:
 
Derek
Plane evolution before our eyes!
I have been spending some time taking measurements from old woodies and making some new ones (as you know :lol: ). It always excites me when I discover how much thought, how many generations of improvements have gone into such deceptively simple (and sometimes shabby looking) planes.
I like the MKII tote - much more "right" looking, almost LN shaped.
How has the sole trueness held up? And are you happy with the lever cap - does it hold the iron firmly?
Cheers (and well done)
Philly :D
 
Excellently executed modification, Derek =D> The new position certainly looks more "right" than the original one.

Cheers :wink:

Paul
 
Derek - looks more 'in balance' now. May be having a go at making one of these large wooden jointers (with a metal cap-iron and bolt) in due course so I've been reading your stuff on making them with interest - Rob
 
Philly wrote:
How has the sole trueness held up? And are you happy with the lever cap - does it hold the iron firmly?

I've been using HNT Gordon planes for quite a number of years. They set with a wedge and this has always been easy to manipulate. However the downside of a wedge is that one needs to rap the rear of the plane quite hard to loosen the blade, which is necessary when it must be removed, or when a major adjustment is necessary. The advantage of a lever cap is that the plane is no longer subjected to any force. One still need to tap the body to adjust the blade, but this is a gentle force. Further, the degree of firmness can be dialed in more easily with a lever cap.

I have not had any problems holding the blade after a session of vigorous planing.

I am getting used to the new tote position. It makes the plane feel more like the HNT Gordon Trying Plane - although after using this jointer, the Trying Plane feels really small in the hand.

It is interesting that Terry Gordon has now brought out a line of planes with lever caps (and adjusters).

Regards from Perth

Derek
 
Thanks Derek, nice to know. :D
Saw Terrys new plane line - interesting..... :wink:
I think that most woodworkers have been spoilt by metal planes with adjusters - the wedge/tap tap thing is sometimes too much faff to learn. :lol:
Cheers
Phil :D
 
engineer one":3giuhvss said:
(snip) actually maybe next time . . . make the handle with a tenon which is separate from the handle, and allows you to move it up and down the slot until it gets to the right place . . . paul :wink:

Very nice looking modification Derek. FWIW I also thought the same as Paul - making the tote adjustable. Would there be any advantage in being able to position the tote further back as you had it originally or further forward?

All the best,

Steve
 
Looking back I recognise that I should have just used the plane without a tote, feeling for the ideal position. Live and learn. :oops:

Many thanks for all the kind remarks. Lots of encouragement to keep trying.

Regards from Perth

Derek
 

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