President Elect's 'top team'

[Noel]

One of the reasons why people voted for Trump was his stance on NATO. The ordinary people were fed up of the government using their hard earned money for other people's wars and being the main cash cow.
Trump is more interested in the welfare of his own country rather than interfering in the nations of others and unless it's in the USA's interests I can see him not getting involved and quite frankly I really don't blame him.
There are new economic kids on the block so he will have his work cut out with dealing with those without spending time sorting out other people's conflicts.

You believe that? NATO was an influence for "ordinary people" on how they voted? I'd say if you walked up 5th Avenue NYC, the Strip in Vegas or Court Avenue in Des Moines you'd be hard pressed to find anybody that even knows what NATO is.
Aside from party affiliation/conservatism I think most know that views on the economy, immigration, "anti politician", abortion, gender issues and all the other usual MAGA stuff influenced voters. NATO, never made the list and there's little point using false information to back up your narrative.

 

[martin45]

ey_tony said:

"Trump is more interested in the welfare of his own country rather than interfering in the nations of others and unless it's in the USA's interests I can see him not getting involved and quite frankly I really don't blame him."

Well, if he stops funding and supporting Israel's genocide and ethnic cleansing in the Middle East he will be a welcome change from the war criminals Biden and Harris.

I somehow doubt it but I hope your correct!

 

[RobinBHM]

Trump is more interested in the welfare of his own country

Tony, the people Trump is choosing for his team show the polar opposite.........and then theres Project 2025

 

[Terry - Somerset]

LOL - I was over Brexit before it was voted - just to hold a referendum meant devaluing the measure of honesty and integrity.

It is that point that I will never get over. And neither should I, or anyone else for that matter. That people prefer to be fed lies and accept them willingly, without thought or scrutiny or analysis - thick as mince - and yet having an over-inflated opinion of both themselves and the efficacy of their rubbish opinions - despite the body of evidence that supports the contrary. We all need to do more to combat that particularly insidious "inside threat".

People like to be told what they want to hear. It reinforces the belief they know best.

They did not vote for Brexit knowing it wrong or because they are personally thick. They voted for Brexit because they thought it was right. And the people they trusted told them so.

You and I may regard them as thick, or at the very least, misguided but it was their judgement.

There were also many highly intelligent and able folk who thought Brexit right - I personally knew many whose judgement and behaviours I had (and still have) the utmost respect for.

We disagreed - but they had every right to come to the conclusions they did based on the same information I had to form a different opinion.

The slogans "take back control" and "get Brexit done" and "no deal is better than a bad deal" were very powerful statements of intent. I recall nothing of even close to similar impact from Remain.

It is no surprise the Brexiteers triumphed against the odds. I recall Nigel Farage wandering around utterly bemused by the turn of events post referendum - he clearly expected to have lost.

Remainers lost the referendum not because the Brexit camp behaved badly - they simply fought a completely rubbish campaign. And in the period during negotiations in 2019 completely failed to engineer any sort of organised resistance to what became inevitable.

 

[curryjunkie]

Of course Chris you and I could engage in a battle of wits over this but sadly judging by your comment, my woke pragmatic reasoning precludes me from engaging with an unarmed combatant!
I happen to think that Trump's re-emergence on the political scene is just what Putin was hoping for...Trump isn't remotely militarily belligerent and Putin got it wrong with the Ukraine invasion so both Putin and Ukraine will both be looking for a face-saving way out and Trump is the key to a negotiated settlement.

Allowing Ukraine unfettered access to the kind of NATO military weapons that could induce major retaliation at this moment in time is utterly half brained and that about sums up Biden...he's not compos mentis so it's the advisers and warmongers who are behind this. The warmongers have been courting the Democrats for their own ends for decades to secure big money therefore we are going to have rival opinions on these matters.

I'm quite sure when a final settlement is reached, neither side will have got what they wanted but further conflict can be averted.

wouldn't be fair, you are unarmed..