Police Thugs Arrest Pensioner

[Digit]

I confess to being staggered as to the number of cars that have been seized from uninsured drivers. Must do wonders for the S/H car market.

Roy.

 

[Anonymous]

I'm not a massive fan of traffic police as 6 years ago i had a run in with one who pulled me over for a broken L plate on a motorbike i had at the time, it was the back one which had broken between when i started that particular journey and when i was pulled over (you could quite clearly see where it has snapped off) anyway was pulled over for it and i argued the toss saying look i didn't realise it had broken, there is a garage there i will go and buy another one - i was very calm and polite - but he issued me a ticket anyway i said well i guess i will have to take this one to court and he said if thats the case i have another ticket for you which he wrote out for invalid insurance (the L plate was broken so invalidated my policy)

I ended up 9 points and a 700 pound fine!!!!

 

[Dibs-h]

I'm not a massive fan of traffic police as 6 years ago i had a run in with one who pulled me over for a broken L plate on a motorbike i had at the time, it was the back one which had broken between when i started that particular journey and when i was pulled over (you could quite clearly see where it has snapped off) anyway was pulled over for it and i argued the toss saying look i didn't realise it had broken, there is a garage there i will go and buy another one - i was very calm and polite - but he issued me a ticket anyway i said well i guess i will have to take this one to court and he said if thats the case i have another ticket for you which he wrote out for invalid insurance (the L plate was broken so invalidated my policy)

I ended up 9 points and a 700 pound fine!!!!

There's one thing I've learned a long time ago - when faced with Plod and you're driving a car (or bike) say as little as possible! Even if he's being a ****!

 

[Gary]

I ended up 9 points and a 700 pound fine!!!!

How?

No insurance is 6 points and £200.
Driving otherwise than in accordance is 6 points and £60.
When dealt with by way of a ticket.


As both offences were at the same time, if you went to court the maximum points would by 6 for both offences.

Something don't add up there.

 

[Digit]

I tell 'em that the battery in my hearing aid has gone flat! :lol:

Roy.

 

[studders]

So where is the video showing the supposed 'Hit and Run'? Why wasn't he prosecuted for it?
Why, if they followed guidelines, training, procedure and only used 'Reasonable Force' were they suspended and an investigation ongoing?
I'm not on the offenders side here, as I said before, he deserved to be prosecuted for his offences. In fact, giving the excuse he did, I would consider him unfit to drive and that his License should be revoked.
That said, from the evidence I have seen I would also severely reprimand the Officers involved, it was not reasonable force as far as I'm concerned. Would you be happy for you or your relatives or friends to be treated that way? I bet not.

 

[wobblycogs]

As I understand it if a complaint is made about an officer that requires an inquiry they are automatically removed from active duty. Trying to use that as an argument to prove their guilt is like as saying everyone the police arrest are automatically guilty because they were arrested. It is up to the enquiry to decide their guilt or innocence just like it is up to a court to decide a criminals.

 

[JMcK]

As I understand it if a complaint is made about an officer that requires an inquiry they are automatically removed from active duty.

Not quite so. It depends on the nature of the complaint. If,for example,it's an allegation of crime such as theft then the officer would be likely to be suspended.

A judgement is made as to the circumstances when deciding on suspension.

 

[studders]

Trying to use that as an argument to prove their guilt.

I haven't tried to prove anything about anyone.

is like as saying everyone the police arrest are automatically guilty because they were arrested.

That's just complete nonsense and totally irrelevant.

Do you contend they used reasonable force and would you be happy for yourself or your family to be treated that way in those circumstances?

 

[big soft moose]

I ended up 9 points and a 700 pound fine!!!!

How?

No insurance is 6 points and £200.
Driving otherwise than in accordance is 6 points and £60.
When dealt with by way of a ticket.


As both offences were at the same time, if you went to court the maximum points would by 6 for both offences.

Something don't add up there.

those are the penalties when dealt with by fixed penalty - if you choose to go to court anything can happen as its at the magistrates discretion (which is why many people choose to just take the fixed penalty). The court could decide (as happened to my freind dan) to ban you over a speeding offence that would only get you three points and 60 quid as a fixed penalty

in mark270981s case while he may well have been right that the cop was being a total pineapple, if he'd just nodded meekly and said "yes officer, i'm sorry, thankyou for bringing it to my attention, it wont happen again and i'll get it fixed imeadiately" chances are good he'd only have got a producer

 

[Anonymous]

I ended up 9 points and a 700 pound fine!!!!

How?

No insurance is 6 points and £200.
Driving otherwise than in accordance is 6 points and £60.
When dealt with by way of a ticket.


As both offences were at the same time, if you went to court the maximum points would by 6 for both offences.

Something don't add up there.

6 points for no insurance - 3 points for not driving in accordance with the law. 2 seperate summons. I was young naive and very busy so didn't really bother with it.

i was shafted well and truly

Hefty Fine because of my ma and pas postcode where i was living at the time.

 

[bugbear]

Trying to use that as an argument to prove their guilt.

I haven't tried to prove anything about anyone.

I think your implication was perfectly clear.

Why, if they followed guidelines, training, procedure and only used 'Reasonable Force' were they suspended and an investigation ongoing?

BugBear

 

[studders]

I think your implication was perfectly clear.



BugBear

Implying something and attempting to prove something are two very different things. Also, I implied nothing, your mistaken interpretation of my motive for my question is your own error, not mine.

 

[bugbear]

I think your implication was perfectly clear.



BugBear

Implying something and attempting to prove something are two very different things. Also, I implied nothing, your mistaken interpretation of my motive for my question is your own error, not mine.

Ah. The old "throw around some loaded language and deny you meant anything by it" ploy.

BugBear

 

[Dibs-h]

6 points for no insurance - 3 points for not driving in accordance with the law. 2 seperate summons. I was young naive and very busy so didn't really bother with it.

i was shafted well and truly

Hefty Fine because of my ma and pas postcode where i was living at the time.

Back in my student days I got stopped with 4 mates in the back of my Golf. Got 2 separate summons as well - went to see a solicitor who pointed out that they were taking the piss as one was under the new Road Traffic Act (or something) and the other one under the old one. Got 1 cancelled - so just 3 points.

 

[Mike.C]

I think your implication was perfectly clear.



BugBear

Implying something and attempting to prove something are two very different things. Also, I implied nothing, your mistaken interpretation of my motive for my question is your own error, not mine.

Ah. The old "throw around some loaded language and deny you meant anything by it" ploy.

BugBear

i must admit that Studders speaks his mind and does not go around loading any language. If he wanted to say something he would say it and not imply it, and after doing so he would certainly not deny it.

Just my opinion you understand.

Cheers

Mike

 

[studders]

Ah. The old "throw around some loaded language and deny you meant anything by it" ploy.

BugBear

Ah BearButt. The old 'Make a wrong assumption then, when your error is pointed out, do your best to distract attention from your error by making yet another error' ploy.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Any chance of you answering the question rather than trying to score points?

No?

Thought not.

 

[bugbear]

Ah. The old "throw around some loaded language and deny you meant anything by it" ploy.

BugBear

Ah BearButt. The old 'Make a wrong assumption then, when your error is pointed out, do your best to distract attention from your error by making yet another error' ploy.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Any chance of you answering the question rather than trying to score points?

No?

Thought not.

Tell you what. Re-express what you really meant by "Why, if they followed guidelines, training, procedure and only used 'Reasonable Force' were they suspended and an investigation ongoing?" and I'll give it a go.

Don't just repeat it, because me and wobblycogs clearly see a different meaning from the one you're claiming, but haven't yet stated.

BugBear

 

[studders]

If he wanted to say something he would say it and not imply it, and after doing so he would certainly not deny it.

Just my opinion you understand.

Cheers

Mike

Thank you Mike. You are quite correct. I asked a question, it hasn't yet been answered, and implied nothing.
I have already stated that, in my opinion at least, the Police over stepped the mark and used excessive force. I want to know if their Superiors might have reason to think they did to.

 

[studders]

You become... strange.

BugBear

I become..... very bored... with you and your silly games.



Bye Now.


Sorry, you were to slow on your edit, nice try though.

I've asked a question, either answer it or don't but don't keep telling me what I meant, implied or inferred because you do not know.