Pinning beads - internal door

[Prawn_Cracker]

Hi All

I am glazing an internal timber door and will bed the glass onto a thin bead if silicone. However, when I pin the beads with panel pin and nail punch would I be best to apply a thin smear of wood glue? I'm hesitant to do this as I imagine it makes re glazing it in the future, should the glass be broken, quite awkward?

Ideas and advice greatly received.

Cheers

 

[Jacob]

On an internal door I wouldn't bed the glass at all and certainly not stick the bead. No real need to.

 

[Prawn_Cracker]

Thanks Jacob, is the silicone only really needed for weather proofing external glazing in that case? The beading being the only thing needed to hold the glass tight? I'll leave out the glue too.

Cheers

Andy

 

[Phil Pascoe]

Just push your bead tight, it'll be tight enough.

 

[Prawn_Cracker]

Thanks Phil, will do! Perhaps I'll try and post a pic! If it all goes ok!

Cross posting here slightly but can anyone recommend a decent hammer for this sort of work? If that isn't too general a description?

 

[Eric The Viking]

You'll probably get on best with a pin punch, rather than a specialist hammer.

The chance of ticking the glass on the way with a hammer used close-in is fairly high, and it will probably shatter. (don't ask, etc.)

Set the pins in the bead before offering it to the opening and it's relatively easy.

I haven't used the push-handle sort, but they seem to be a good idea. I assume it's softwood - if so you don't need to hit it at all hard.

 

[Prawn_Cracker]

Yeah I was a little bit concerned with my beefy hammer clouting the glass! Will look up a pin punch.

Good tip on setting the pins in the beads first. I was also going drill a very fine pilot hole in case the beads split, they are quite fine and narrow. Is something not worth doing? I'm just concerned of making a mess!

It is a soft wood door indeed!

Cheers

Andy

 

[Bradshaw Joinery]

Just stick them in, either on double sided gazing tape, or a small bead of sealant adhesive.. silicone doesnt adhere well to bare wood.

Dont just use a blob of selant as you see it though the glass from the otherside and it looks terrible. Best bet is glazing tape though

 

[Mike.S]

Agree with most of above i.e. no glue or mastics etc. One trick to avoid breaking glass with a hammer is to slide the hammer on the glass (assuming no burrs on the hammer head which might scratch) rather than try to strike the pin/nail using a normal swinging action. Works for me.

 

[Jacob]

What's wrong with a nail punch?

 

[xy mosian]

+1 for sliding the hammer. If you still don't fancy that, or you have lumpy/moulded glass, trap a piece of thin card between the sliding hammer head and the glass. Cornflakes carton etc.. When starting the pins in the beads organise them so that they will be parallel with the glass when in place.
xy

 

[Woodchips2]

I use a pin hammer like this http://www.amazon.co.uk/Stanley-Cp3-1-P ... B0001IWDH4 sliding the hammer against the glass. I find it helps to drill pilot holes in the beads to avoid splitting.

Regards Keith

 

[Prawn_Cracker]

Thanks again to all have offered their tips and tricks and experience, I know what I need to do now. Just got to get on with it!

Andy

Cheers