One for the engineers and model makers praps

[mr]

Moved into this house almost four years ago and I'm still unpacking boxes. Today I unpacked this. It was scratch built by my grandfather (as in my fathers father - not the man I knew as my Grandfather, my father's father was killed during WW2). Anyway my father tells me that once upon a time there was track and a carriage for it with a seat on which, as a wee thing he used to ride around the garden behind the steam powered loco, no idea if this is correct or something mis remembered though. This would make it in the region of 60 years old. There is also a coal tender which I have. The Locomotive is approx 60 cm long with (approx) 6 cm width between the wheels. As a vague size comparison that's a three year old foot beside it. One day I might work out how to restore it to its former glory. Anyway just thought it might amuse some of you, apologies for poor pics.

regards Mike

 

[Paul Chapman]

I'm not into trains, Mike, but that looks lovely.

Paul

 

[mr]

Not mad on trains myself either, but this is indeed a luvverly thing. Probably because of the effort and skill that must have gone into making it. The pictures don't do it justice I'm afraid.
Cheers Mike

 

[CHJ]

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

You lucky :!: What a treasure.

I can just see Devon Woody drooling at his monitor.

 

[Colin C]

It looks well maded and it would look first class restored.
I also take my hat off to the man that made it =D>
I think engineer one is the man to talk to about it, as I am sure that he has something to do with Locomotives ( I think he designs parts if I remember right :-k )

 

[engineer one]

looks remarkably like a copy of an LNER A1/3 pacific.
probably Flying Scotsman, yer actual famous loco. :lol: :lol:

presume the tender is 8 wheeler???

looks quite nice, a number of people do restore them,
but you need to get a good inspection to ensure that is capable of
being restored.

have to say, because it was not made by Bassett Lowke, or Beeson,
it might only be worth restoring because you want to have something
from the family, but if you want to sell it later, then the cost is a
problem, but it would look nice on your mantlepiece.

some more photos would be helpful.

paul :wink:

 

[devonwoody]

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

You lucky :!: What a treasure.

I can just see Devon Woody drooling at his monitor.

problem is I can hardly type at the moment owimng to blisters on four fingers (been filling in cracks on an outside wall and wiping filler off with my fingers)

Yes Super.

 

[Newbie_Neil]

Hi Mike

It's just beautiful.

Cheers
Neil

 

[jasonB]

Not really into locos I prefer traction engines and stationary engines. It's a bit like handtools, how far do you go when restoring it. I think just a good clean up would be better than a complete strip down & repaint.

If you plan to run it on a club or public track you will have to get a boiler test certificate for insurance purposes, not sure how well the boiler may have lasted over 60yrs. But if you just want it as a show piece then it would be nice to get it running on air.

Jason

 

[CHJ]

...snip...
problem is I can hardly type at the moment owimng to blisters on four fingers (been filling in cracks on an outside wall and wiping filler off with my fingers)

John I have no sympathy you should know better, painful ain't it! (HDIKT)

 

[mr]

looks remarkably like a copy of an LNER A1/3 pacific.
probably Flying Scotsman, yer actual famous loco. :lol: :lol:

presume the tender is 8 wheeler???

I think it is the Flying Scotsman though as mentioned I don't really know a lot about trains. Not sure about the number of wheels on the tender, Ill have to count. As far as restoration goes, I suspect it will never run again, cost would probably be prohibitive and not being a train / steam fanatic it wouldnt be worth it. It really only has value I think as a result of being built by my grandfather A clean up would do it wonders no doubt and it could then sit on display somewhere. Its probably a bit too heavy for the matle piece though.
Just off to Zumzet overnight but Ill try and get some better pictures up tomorrow evening or so
Cheers Mike.

 

[engineer one]

mr, did a bit more thinking overnight.

it would have been built, more likely nearer 70 years ago,
various details point to that. have you checked for a maker's
label or decal anywhere. i think if it was home built, it would have
been to a henry greenly plan, which means the tender may well
not be 8 wheel, rather an adaptation of his standard 6 wheeler.

you could check the boiler with air pressure to see how tight it still is.
that might also show whether the wheels turn too.

suggest in the first place you think about cleaning, not restoring,
and so use a mild cleaner like tcut but check to get one that does
not leave a residue.

from the dimensions i think it was made in old fashioned imperial, to
2 1/2 gauge, so the track should be almost 2 1/2 inches between the
rails. still quite popular at local engineering clubs, and railway tracks.
you might even find someone locally who could help re-build it
as a favour. you never know what cupboards etc that people want
or could be persuaded to accept.

would look really nice with a rake of 8 gresley style teak coaches behind it. :lol:

paul :wink: