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I had a Black and Decker Professional angle grinder for many years and it was well built and got through a lot of work. Recently I overworked it cutting up a central heating radiator that was too heavy to cart to the tip, something snapped internally and it died.

I replaced it with a Makita 115mm angle grinder thinking it would be greatly superior to the B&D but after less than an hours use, not continuous, it got very hot, started smoking and rattling as if the bearings had gone. It was less than a week old so I took it back to the retailer in Newton Abbot assuming I would get an exchange or my money back. I was amazed when the retailer said they couldn’t deal with the problem but it would have to go to a local specialist repair shop that dealt with Makita repairs. I told them no way did a want a machine that had had less than an hours use repaired.

To cut a long story short I ended up dealing with the retailer’s Head Office who initially held the same line that Makita insisted on no exchange or refunds by the retailer until they had received the report from the repairer. I quoted the retailer’s responsibilities under the Sale of Goods Act and told them I was rejecting the goods as not fit for purpose and would be ringing Trading Standards with a complaint. I got a refund within an hour!

This experience wouldn’t encourage me to buy Makita tools again. Firstly I thought I was buying a good quality industrial machine which failed after very little use. Secondly I don’t like a manufacturer trying to prevent a retailer complying with their legal responsibilities.

Anybody recommend a corded 115mm angle grinder other than Makita? I've looked at the Stanley Fatmax which has a three year warranty (sold by Argos who don't quibble if there is a fault) and the JCB (sold by B&Q) which has a five year warranty and both are less expensive than the Makita.

Regards Keith
 
Our angle grinders (4.5 and 9") at work are Cr*pita, all our tools were new in December from various brands - the only failure so far is a 9" grinder (now repaired), hadn't seen much use either.

5 years ago I would of recommended Bosch blue grinders every time as we have had some excellent service from many 4.5 and 9". But a few years ago all our tools were stolen and the replacement Bosch grinders we received were terrible, some failed with only a few hours use - all were dead before 6 months was out. The gear/s went on nearly all the 4.5" and the 9" ones seemed to have big problems with the trigger or the circuit that controlled the kickback stop.

The only "professional" use grinder that I have used lately that seemed quite good was the Hitachi, that was a 9" so cant comment on the 4.5" much.

If your an occasional user I would be tempted to buy a budget job from screwfix (eg titan) - they are usually pretty good with returns should something be wrong. Plus they are pretty cheap so if it fails out of warranty you can happily bin it and get another.

If your doing a lot of metal cutting try and get some thin (1mm) cutting disks (if you haven't already), makes a world of difference to cut speed.

HTH
 
Thanks 'No skills'. It is for occasional use and the Titan is currently on offer for £19.99. I am tempted to go down this route.

Regards Keith
 
I've 3 Bosch blue ones, 2 small ones and a 9" one.

1 for cutting and grinding and 1 for wire wheels and the big one just in case.
 
25 years in fabrication only ever used Metabo 4 1/2". Ours were used for at least two hours per day all year, we would expect two years before the brushes went, another 6 months before something, usually the switch arrangements gave up, then consigned to the spares pile. I have three built from the scrap ones and they are still good for home use. If you get the professional grade they are bomb proof.

gareth
 
Thanks for all the suggestions and feedback. I'm probably too old to justify buying the Metabo unless I convince myself it will be good to pass onto my son when I expire!

Regards Keith
 
I've just replaced a cheap Bosch Blue one (can still be had for about £35 even in Screwfix I think) with a Metabo variable speed one. Cost a lot more than a replacement Bosch - even though Bosch (and Festool) are second to none in my opinion when it comes to repairs - because I wanted the variable, but that's out of choice. If replacing like for like again, I'd have no issue whatsoever to go with the Bosch. The last one had a hard life and still managed about 8 years cutting tiles and bricks.

Starting to get a few Metabo systainers about the place now, from what I read, they're pretty bulletproof (as has been suggested before in this thread).

Hope that helps.
 
Thanks Wuffles. I've not used any of the Bosch Blue range but have had a green Bosch circular saw which is still going strong after probably 20 years. I've also had a green Bosch electric planer with no problems. The only Bosch tool that was disappointing was a green 12v drill and the battery didn't last much beyond two years before the battery wouldn't hold a charge.

Regards Keith
 
Register the warranty in 30 days and if anything goes wrong they send a FedEx man, he takes it away, it comes back cleaned and serviced (and fixed) for 3 years.

Can't find one on Screwfix for what I said now (naturally), but they do exist for about that sort of money.

I don't know what Makita, DeWalt and some of the others are like for service, not owned any of them, I have a lot of Bosch batteries so I'm kind of bought into the brand now, but the service I've received has been excellent.
 
I've had nothing but problems with a Makita Reciprocating saw and compressor .
The saw has been repaired 5 times now and I've had 3 replacement compressors .
I won't be buying Makita again with the only exception their awesome belt sanders .
 
I think a lot of people are in agreeance regarding Makita, they have slipped down the market,
I now use Panasonic drills not had a problem yet, do like the Hilti tools but the price doesn't outweigh the use and those thieves out there.

I also don't think the Makita batteries are the same as they use to be, never last more than 12months.
I'm sure I'm not the only one who's noticed the battery life of Makita? hope someone is watching this topic from Makita so they can buck their ideas up
 
I only have a Makita belt sander which I believe is a design from 10+ years ago and still going strong!

Can't comment on their new stuff but disappointing to hear their standards have started slipping.
 
I have a Makita BHP451 combi drill and have been running it off the same Li Ion battery for over three years. Have had absolutely no problems with it whatsoever. I think the problem with Li Ion batteries is that you need to avoid over heating them. I know this is easier said than done with certain tools but worth it IMHO for what they offer in terms of no memory effect, weight and power.

On the broader topic of power tool manufacturers; I guess it's a case of each to their own. I have a load of Makita stuff and none of it has ever let me down or left me wishing I had got something else. For most items I would put them above Bosch (apart from their SDS drills which are fantastic) and waaaay above DeWalt of which I have never really got on with. Not as good as Festool but then again, for me personally, the difference in price is not justified with a commensurate difference in performance although I must say Festool do some great stuff.
 

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