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Yeah but I used to see things in the catalogue that I did'nt need but wanted so I got. :wink:
What year are those figures for ?Inoffthered":10gqi4ys said:if you look at the Axminster group accounts
Rhossydd":28tm0mom said:[What year are those figures for ?
Things have changed a lot in the last two years.
Whilst you may not understand their trading model, they undoubtedly have the numbers to make the big decisions on what is actually happening in their business.
Their gamble will be how much the catalogue is/was driving sales and if the people who only rely on the catalogue are worth the expense of chasing.
They'll know all the big data on where the sales are taking place now;Inoffthered":do5pwsfk said:On what basis do you say that they have the numbers to make the big decisions?
So that will include the investment of the new store at North Shields. There's also been a shift in pricing in the last year to become more competitive, presumably on the back of currency fluctuations.Accounts for year ended 30 April 2015.
Rhossydd":12tp6sf7 said:Inoffthered":12tp6sf7 said:On what basis do you say that they have the numbers to make the big decisions?So that will include the investment of the new store at North Shields. There's also been a shift in pricing in the last year to become more competitive, presumably on the back of currency fluctuations.Accounts for year ended 30 April 2015.
In that respect the catalogue has actually been a hindrance, Veritas, Festool and their machinery have all dropped in price a lot since the last catalogue and don't forget the greatly reduced cost of shipping small orders.
Not if they're making a better margin.Inoffthered":354gu1yg said:if they are reducing prices, they will need to increase the volume of sales to make up for it.
Oh course they are in the context of knowing where their customers are coming from.Your comments on "big data" are not relevant.
Inoffthered":2hrqf8eb said:Having said that, if you look at the Axminster group accounts you can perhaps understand why they need to cut costs ....turnover £35million, profit after tax only £320k. The balance sheet makes interesting reading too, stocks of £10m , trade creditors (i.e. what they owe their suppliers) £4.8m and a bank overdraft of £5m. A stock turn of only 2.1 times in a year seems a bit low for a retail business.
Eric The Viking":2ktj0jdw said:I read later in the thread these are 2015 figs, but where from, please CoHo returns or elsewhere? I didn't think Axminster group was publicly traded, so I assume you have had only the base CoHo set of numbers to go on. Be gentle I'm a bit rusty having not done this stuff for over 20 years...
It's all extremely interesting, especially the stock turn. It raises some questions and thoughts:
1. What sector would I put them in, for comparison purposes?
2. I'm rusty on this: stock of 10m, turnover 35m - stock turn of 3.5x? Gross simplification but still... and a comparison with the 2014 numbers would show if their stock-in-hand is growing or diminishing too.
3. It would be very interesting to know the terms under which they have their shops: short/long lease or possibly freehold. It would affect their ability to borrow. Under what period would they write-off the brand new shopfittings, etc.? I'm not very clued up on retail (you can tell!). Is there a standard practice for this in that sector?
4. Assuming normal tax rates, profit pre-tax is 400k, which is only 1.1% - not awfully good. But that's net, not trading.
5. If they were buying ahead in 2014, They're will have been helped by the yuan, as it was at a significantly better rate then than now, despite the current 'crisis'. How do FOREX purchases show in their accounts? If they read it right they might have been committing to stock manufacture at a lower rate, hence the higher trade creditors number. So that's not necessarily a bad thing.
It's all interesting - as I said would love to know where you got the numbers from.
E.
Thanks Terry - makes a lot of sense (and I need to get more practice!).Terry - Somerset":1wr2caj8 said:With nothing else to do on a wet saturday morning, and getting over a touch of bronchitis which precludes the workshop dust, I thought I would take a look at the Axminster accounts. It may start to make some sense of why they do what they do given the discussions above.
I wonder if #9 above is also BrimarcThere is also £0.4m intangible asset which seems to relate to goodwill generated about 8 years ago - often arises when a company is purchased (Brimarc???)
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9. Debtors are £2.7m - I assume mainly trade accounts (larger, more regular, mainly business customers?) . Assuming this represents around 2 months (60 days) sales would imply that these trade accounts represent approx £16m pa - about half their total turnover.
Given your observations on Forex this would make sense too: the loans would allow them to hedge, and given that the exchange rate has fallen far more than the rate they'll be getting from the bank, any loans for that purpose must be well worth it.10. Creditors are £11.7m. Of this £5.4m is bank loans - increased over the previous year by £1.4m possibly due the cost of opening new branches. The other major item are trade creditors of £4.7m representing approx 2.6 months purchases of tools and machinery - seems as expectation.
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