Hello Jacob, I’ve had two hips replaced, and my right knee. The first was my right hip that I had done aged 54 in Birmingham, the other two were done were here in France. In France I had epidural injections, which I found incredibly painful. The knee required 9 injections. Recovery from the knee took a lot longer than the hips, but fine now. Go for it.
New hip anybody?
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Lons
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That's what happened to my wife when she needed her hips replaced, the consultant kept saying "pain must be coming from your back" by then she couldn't walk 50 yards and it got to the point where she was given a disabled blue badge and I had to buy a mobility scooter. The consultant sent her for injections, another 2 month wait then the guy administering them said it was a waste of time and would only relieve pain for a very short time so we switched to a different NHS area and got the operations within a month. The new consultant had to repair bone damage he said was caused by the delays and had it gone much longer one of her hips would have had much less chance of being repaired successfully. He was shocked to say the least but we just put it down to the original consultant being cr*p and were thankful she was fully mobile again.
When the delaying tactics happened again with her heel 2 years later we were forced into paying for a private consultation to short circuit the system and yet again this time with her other heel when they refused to refer to a consultant until she's been through the mill for months, initially via the muskuloskeletal system and then eventually go on the waiting list, currently nearly 24 months we are left with no options but to go private. It's money we can ill afford to spend but my wife's health and wellbeing comes first.
Jacob
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That sounds appalling - I reckon you have grounds for a complaint/compensation and should see a solicitor.
My recent NHS treatment has been fast and efficient - hernia op few years ago, cataract recently, fairly positive progress so far with hip op.
PS and knee accident op 9 years ago - broken quad tendons urgently needing operation within 24 hours for a good recovery.
Steadily falling apart!
PPS and hearing aids - top quality - would have cost several £k if done privately.
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Jacob
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This thread is not good for the younger members, they are fit and healthy like we once were and don't really need to look into their future and see what could be waiting.
Yes, very decrepit old woodworker here, but touch wood hips and knees still reasonably functional. I have two friends who had hip operations. One had it donee just a couple of weeks ago, the other, about 5 years ago. I saw him got from a hobbling guy in constant pain to walking and cycling perfectly normally. It absolutely transformed his life. I was also cycling with a guy a couple of weeks ago, who had one hip done and waiting for the other to be done. It certainly didn't hold him back, 18-20+ mph. Good luck. I'm sure it will all go well and you will soon be getting your leg over the bike again! You should ask if you can get a grease nipple fitted for maintenance!
Peterm1000
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Of course, NHS treatment is free - as is any other service provided by taxation such as going to school or any use of the roads (anyone who says road tax pays that is wrong - road tax raises £6.5bn but the roads cost £31bn). If you even take a step out of your house onto the pavement you are benefitting from the public purse for free. The cost of installing that pavement, cleaning it, maintaining it, lighting it are all borne by the public.
Jacob
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Have to tell Phil! Remind him that every time he strolls "freely" along a path to not kid himself; it may not be absolutely free at all!
TominDales
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I'm no expert, but from my observations, our local NHS system applies a rationing/recycling of patients based on local supply demand, its probably quite informal as they probably don't like publishing waiting lists. Somethings happen fast and efficient, others you get into a recycling coil like a plane waiting to land at an airport. My kids teeth - instantly - strait to consultant in Leeds/Harrogate - seemed to have a department to ourselves, very empty waiting area, consultants keen to investigate stuff, (some quite questionable xrays, MRIs and examinations) . Whereas sons hole in ear drum has had 5 years of toeing and throwing to see differing doctors and consultants in York, Harrogate, Leeds etc then covid and now back to GP with lots of 10 minute appointments but back into a 3 month que, consultant called into AE so start again, needing antibiotics so that they can see in so back to GP and round again, - busy waiting areas with a lot of through traffic - I assume that department is full up whereas the teeth dept was quite slack.
My hip experience was of a busy department. The consultant had us lined up in cubicles and he went for one to the next with his very full clip board finding ways to get us off the list and onto something else, 5 minutes a person. It was only after the 3rd time of this that I realised I needed to push for action or go private. I was offered physio but still waiting 5 years later for the appointment - I'm now better so don't need it. It strikes me that the people in the system have these various ways of delaying when they are full-up - and you can tell by how full the waiting room is that some are busier than others. I felt the original consultant was being a it cr*p but with hind sight, he was managing demand, he had too many people to treat. Once in another trust area things speeded up.
selectortone
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I don't get it Jacob. I would have thought a dyed-in-the-wool socialist would be proud to say he pays for the NHS. Or do you have some magic way of avoiding income tax, VAT, and all the other taxes the rest of us pay that fund it?
Jacob
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It's free to anybody who needs it and I am happy to be part of the community who pays for it. I realise this causes a bit of head scratching on the right!
selectortone
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So you DO pay for it. Thanks for clearing that up. 
Jacob
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No I don't pay for it. It's free.So you DO pay for it. Thanks for clearing that up.
I do pay taxes however. But don't worry about it if you can't quite get it.
selectortone
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Hee hee. The very definition of 'weasel words'. 
Presumably you have a hotline to the chancellor as to where your tax is spent.
Presumably you have a hotline to the chancellor as to where your tax is spent.
Peterm1000
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I see the Jacob baiting is now well an truly underway. He said it was free. If anyone other than Jacob had said that, no one would have said a word. Instead, an opportunity was taken to attempt to drag him into a political argument - and if he engages, he would no doubt be complained about. The same happens every time Jacob posts on anything vaguely related to anything political. To me - that's very boring and takes away from an other interesting thread,
Everyone knows someone pays for the NHS as they pay for all the other "free" services you get. Point made. We get it. I don't think we need another 10 posts to say the same.
Everyone knows someone pays for the NHS as they pay for all the other "free" services you get. Point made. We get it. I don't think we need another 10 posts to say the same.
selectortone
Still waking up not dead in the morning
So I'm a 'Jacob baiter' because I disagree with something I read on this forum?
selectortone
Still waking up not dead in the morning
My grandfather was a coal miner before WWI, was wounded in France, came back to the grinding poverty and inequality he left in 1914 and though "What have I been fighting for for the last four years?" He became a union official and along with his communist brother got his skull cracked a few times fighting for a better life. My great uncle got thrown in prison. My Dad, along with the majority of his WWII servicemen bretheren, voted Churchill out on his return in favour of a Labour government that brought in the NHS, (along with old age pensions nationalising water, electricity, gas, the railways ...) and generally gave them all the level playing field they deserved.
Jacob doesn't have a monoply on socialism here. I'm fiercely proud of the NHS. I don't need lecturing on the subject, thanks.
Jacob
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So why do you need an explanation of the meaning of a free health service?
selectortone
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Well, if I might be permitted to answer:
When I'm talking to Americans and they talk about our 'free health service', I always say it isn't free, we all pay for it.
Peterm1000
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I wasn't aiming the comment specifically at you, but seeing as you responded.... He had already clarified what he meant and accepted the point that public services are publicly funded. You then sent 3 messages that did not bring new information and looked to me like they were designed to provoke a response rather than add to the debate (including accusing him of weasel words). If that isn't baiting, I don't know what is.
By the way, the NHS describes their services as "free" for residents of the UK (which I think Jacob is). From the NHS website - "Hospital treatment is free to people who are "ordinarily resident" in the UK.". They don't talk anywhere about it being free at the point of use or how they are funded. Hopefully this clarifies and we don't need to go over this again.
https://www.nhs.uk/nhs-services/vis...s-in-england-if-you-are-visiting-from-abroad/
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