New Finish from Chestnut - Offer ends Saturday 1st May!!!

[Richard Findley]

Hi all,

I'm not sure if you know about this or not but there is a new finish available from Chestnut Products:

Hard Wax Oil:

It is a blend of natural oils and waxes and gives a very hardwearing clear gloss finish.

I am running a special offer for UKWorkshop forum members only on my website here: http://www.turnersworkshop.co.uk/hwoforumspecial.html

I have run it past the mods first to make sure it's ok to do this and been given the ok but if anyone is offened please do let me know. The offer is ONLY for this forum (which is the best one of course!!) and not the general public (they pay normal price :wink: )

Cheers

Richard

 

[Paul.J]

Any piccys of the sort of finish on a piece Richard :?:

 

[Richard Findley]

Hi Paul,

I have not had a chance to properly experiment with this finish yet - it's that new!!! but from my initial experiments it seems to be a nice finish. I would be interested to hear what others think of it!!

Cheers

Richard

 

[duncanh]

I picked up some of this at the Harrogate show last year (about 4 months ago, so not completely new;-) and I've been using it on and off since then.
I like it - it's quite thin and goes on easily, like their finishing oil. The difference is that it starts to dry faster so you have to remove the excess sooner than with FO.
The final result is a nice smooth finish but, like all these things, it very much depends on how good the surface was before hand and how well you apply it!

There are a couple of pictures in this thread, although you don't get much idea of the finish from them

Duncan

 

[Paul.J]

Nice couple of platters Duncan,but the finish still looks to be matt,or have you rubbed it back :?:

 

[Terry Smart]

not completely new;-)

Glad to hear you like the product Duncan. We've had the product ready for a while now but were delayed from launching it properly while we were waiting for toy testing and the labels - I think you'll find the can you have doesn't say the product is safe for toys as we didn't have the results. (It passed).
What you got at Harrogate was advance, show-only stock.

Not that it really matters of course, I just wanted Richard to know that we hadn't been keeping him in the dark!

 

[stevebuk]

You taken some to the Bash richard??? hope so.

 

[Richard Findley]

Hi Steve,

Yes I shall bring some along with me in my box of goodies to the Bash!!!

Richard

 

[Richard Findley]

I recieved a PM from Simon (SVB) who was interested in the applications for this new product and so I thought I'd answer on the thread incase anyone else had similar questions.

Simon wrote:

What is the purpose / application of the new finish do you think? I use both oil finish and sealer / wax finish but they really are with different applications in mind. How do you think this new product will be used?

I'm sure Terry would be able to answer this more fully and indeed correct me if I'm wrong but as I understand it Hard Wax Oils were initially developed for use on "high useage" woodwork such as flooring and counter tops.

There are certain timbers that certainly benefit from an oil finish, Oak and Walnut immediately spring to mind, and if used in these high usage areas would previously have been finished with some sort of Polyeurathane or Floor Varnish of one kind or another. An oil finish that offers the hardwearing characteristics of one of these varnishes and yet acts like an oil to naturally feed the wood, show off it's natural beauty and be simple to use would certainly be a welcome product.

I think that we as turners are always looking for finishes that have many of these characteristics and so Hard Wax Oils may well be another tool in our toolbox to help us create the next masterpiece :wink: !!

I hope this answers Simons question. Please feel free to ask either Terry or myself anthing else that you would like to know about the product.

Cheers

Richard

 

[big soft moose]

does this come in bigger containers ? - Ive got 40 sign posts which need some manner of oil finish to increase their weather resistance (the boss doesnt want us to use varnish because of the way it looks so its oil finishes only )

also what do folk think about spraying it - I really dont fancy applying a finish to 40 finger posts by brush

 

[Richard Findley]

Hi BSM

PM Sent

Richard

 

[SVB]

Thanks for the info.

I do have a couple of further questions:

A feature of wax, esp. on open grain eg oak / burr is that it gets into the pores and dries as hard white lumps hence oil is a better bet.

Where does this new product stand on this - will it be absorbed into pores that cannot be buffed or will it dry in these poes leaving the wax content behind and visible?

Also, in terms of finish, does it sit between oil and wax in terms of initial build or closer to one than the other?

Thanks
S

 

[Richard Findley]

I think you've got me there Simon although I would say that with the oil and wax blended it should not show up in a bad way and should only enhance the finish. Perhaps Terry might be able to better answer this one. The only other way is to give it a go and see :wink: !! (don't forget to report back and tell us though :lol: :wink: !!)

Richard

 

[Terry Smart]

In a paste wax the solvent evaporates to leave just wax; in these cases wax left in open pores can dry white. (This is because the wax is bleached white to make it clearer; to prevent this either use one of the lightly tinted waxes such as Medium Brown or buff the wax with a bristle brush before it dries completely which wll remove most if not all of the residue).
In Hard Wax Oil the wax is dissolved in the oil; the oil dries with the wax 'inside' so it can't accumulate as a lump in open pores etc.

Build wise I'd put it closer to oil.

 

[miles_hot]

does this come in bigger containers ? - Ive got 40 sign posts which need some manner of oil finish to increase their weather resistance (the boss doesnt want us to use varnish because of the way it looks so its oil finishes only )

also what do folk think about spraying it - I really dont fancy applying a finish to 40 finger posts by brush

You may also want to look at treatex (another hard wax oil) - we've got this on the beach worktops in our kitchen and we found it so far superior to the stuff that the kitchen fitters left us it's not funny. 2 years of hard abuse and I'm only just starting to think about replacing it.

Miles

 

[Paul.J]

Just to let you know,I ordered a tin of this oil Tuesday night from Richard and it arrived this morning,well packed.
So thank you Richard.I will look forward to using it and let you know how i get on

 

[Richard Findley]

Thanks Terry for answering that question!!

Paul J: Glad you recieved it ok. Just before the Easter Holidays started!!!

Cheers

Richard

 

[Richard Findley]

Thanks to everyone that has taken up the offer. I hope you have all had success with the new finish. Both Terry and Myself will be interested to hear of your experiences with it!!

Just to let you know, I will be keeping the offer open to forum members upto and including the 1st of May 2010. I will re-post a reminder before the closing date.

Thanks again for your support!!

Richard

 

[miles_hot]

as with other oils can I use this as a final sanding coat - building a slurry and then wiping that off or will that dull the finish in some way?

Many thanks

Miles

 

[Richard Findley]

Hi Miles

I can't see a problem with using it this way but perhaps Terry might be able to confirm this?

Richard