My Woodwork Journey is about to begin - Total Beginner - I may need your advice.

[Hypnotic Chimera]

Having recently built/organised myself a small area to start making "small stuff" (Current Shed Project thread), I am on the cusp of starting to learn hand skills and to try to make some "small stuff".

I'm aiming to make a few little projects - but have no fixed plan on exactly where the journey might take me after I start.

I intend to start by making a small box or two - probably in softwood, dunno yet... , initially just simple storage for shed organisation - hinged lids, pencil box type stuff, - in the aim of building the hand skills to make a couple of "keepsake boxes" for the house or nice pencil box or even a watch box/watch storage/watch display... just spit-balling, 'cos I've got no firm plans that I want to make "x" for definite.


To help set me up properly - when I comes to small keepsake boxes can anyone give me advice on what thickness of panels I should be aiming for, please? I'm guessing just from mocking up approx sizes it would be around 10mm, maybe less, maybe more - depending on box proportions. In my minds eye - I'm thinking overall dimensions in the region 200 x 150 x 80 mm as a start point (~8" x 6" x 3") - roughly in that ball park, just to kick off.

Another question I have is about using wood veneer/burl veneer - do I need a special glue, or does common wood glue do a sufficient job?


I have a few tools already assembled - even including a couple of old hand planes - although they do need a proper refurb, which is something else I'm looking forward to carrying out
Anyway - I do have, I think, "enough" toolage to start on the journey.

The overall endeavour is just for my own enjoyment - so these "things" that I make will be purely for my own pleasure - both the journey and the destination. I've always been reasonably good with my hands, and turned them to pretty much all and everything over the years, and I enjoy the process of making. I used to build fine scale aircraft models as a teenager (many years ago) and I have done a couple of plastic model cars over the years and still have enough dexterity and an eye for detail - so here's hoping some of that "maker" skill is transferable.


Looking forward to any tips/advice/support that anyone can offer.

Might even chronicle the process? We'll see..

 

[Phil Pascoe]

This is a good start. (Yes, I know faults can be found, but hey ho.)

 

[Hypnotic Chimera]

Thank you very much Phil - will watch that one later today.

I've watched a couple of hand plane videos already - mainly focused on sharpening and setup, though - and I have done a bit of sharpening on one already and a bit of set-up fettling to decent effect.

One thing that I have already done is watch countless YouTube videos - and I know watching is no substitute for doing (I'm a qualified instructor as part of my job role) but at least watching videos gives the visual clues on what to aim for when starting to learn a new manual skill.

I don't know if anyone can empathise with my excitement for embarking on this journey???

 

[Hypnotic Chimera]

The reason I ask about board thickness for small box projects is to ensure I concentrate on building the hand skills to split boards with a hand saw and hand plane them down to required thickness. Thickness info would really help me buying the right kind of stock in the first place.

My thoughts on doing small boxes included an intention to practice all of the regular build techniques, including mitred (intend to make a couple of shooting boards), box/finger joints, and dovetail jointed boxes - so that I'll get practice on all of these techniques - to see what I like - what is in scope for my developing skill levels - and where to concentrate more practice.

Watching videos is OK to get the workflow and thoughts behind those building techniques, but they don't provide enough detail on plans or dimensions. The overall dimensions and proportions can be "judged" by eyeball - and I have a plastic lunch box that is of decent dimensions/proportions that makes me want to start in this ballpark - but as for board thickness - this isn't something that I am able to judge by eye just by watching videos, so a bit of help on board thickness would go a long way to helping me embark on the journey.

 

[Jacob]

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To help set me up properly - when I comes to small keepsake boxes can anyone give me advice on what thickness of panels I should be aiming for, please? I'm guessing just from mocking up approx sizes it would be around 10mm, maybe less, maybe more - depending on box proportions. In my minds eye - I'm thinking overall dimensions in the region 200 x 150 x 80 mm as a start point (~8" x 6" x 3") - roughly in that ball park, just to kick off.

10mm fairly hefty at that size. Maybe 6mm? Thinner for tops and bottoms?
10mm is enough for even quite large drawer sides.
Main thing is to keep looking at existing stuff and always have a tape measure in your pocket. Get tuned in - guesswork can be miles out!

 

[Hypnotic Chimera]

Amazing - thank you Jacob.

Do you think 6mm is "wide enough" for hand cut dovetails to look good and for a decent/sufficient glue-up area for mitred edges (support wedges notwithstanding)?

 

[Jacob]

Amazing - thank you Jacob.

Do you think 6mm is "wide enough" for hand cut dovetails to look good and for a decent/sufficient glue-up area for mitred edges (support wedges notwithstanding)?

Yes but it's up to you!
Good idea to knock up half dozen boxes for practice. They always come in handy.
If you have a table saw then easiest and neatest small box joint is a simple tongue and groove - I made hundreds of 150mm cube boxes with 6mm sides 4mm tops/bottoms, for jackinaboxes. Made as a cube then top sawn off. If you did DTs you'd need an extra wide DT where the cut would line up, to leave a sensible sized half DT, plus allowance for width of kerf.
As with most things there's more to it and more variations than you'd imagine at first - so keep looking at stuff.
PS do not attempt so-called "box joint" by hand - this is strictly a machined joint. By hand a DT is easier.