Moving heavy machinery, new workshop

[head clansman]

HI


Well seeing it not yet built plan in good quality sound proofing and move it closer to the house , kill to bird with one stone so to speak keep the neighbours happy and you not knackering yourself quite so early keeping your self going for another 10 yrs on top of the twenty :wink:

As the stamina go's which will you give up first that bloody great garden ( nice though it is ) or your nice new shiny expensive workshop :?: :wink: just looking up that hill and thinking long term when it all built and you have just order timbers, boarding etc who doing the humping :wink: then :?: you, plus when whatever you make has to come back down the hill , I'm knackerd just looking up it in the pics. hc

 

[woodbloke]

Tony - great idea, but for my money there's too many if's, but's and maybe's...the risk factor with this project to me seems too great. If there were an alternative I'd look into it :wink: - Rob

 

[Escudo]

Thanks for the replies fellas,

It is true having to position the workshop so far from the house is a bind, not least when working on a projects in doors, or when you need that handy tool.

My options are so limited as the whole garden is on a slope apart from a small grassy area which is basically our back lawn, used by the children and is rather nice to sit in, like this afternoon. Missus has forbidden building there as well.

The advantages of building on the site of the former summerhouse are;

The building will not be within two metres of the boundary which may bring some PP advantages.
Electric and water already in place.
I can build an almost square shop, rather than a longer but more narrow building and may be able to go a bit higher as well.

I have mellowed regarding my concerns over machinery, but will have to set aside plans for a big felder at 500kg+. Where there is a will there will be away, may require some specialist help or equipment, or just six heavies.

I did have a brain wave :idea: I could get a small motorised vehicle for travelling up and down the garden. If I invested in a second hand golf buggy I could also use this at the golf club which is only just round the corner. I could easily drive there from home.

Something like this;

http://www.ukgolfbuggies.co.uk/used-ezgo.html

I could modify the back to carry timber in a small way. I could also make an alternative route to the top of the garden with a ramp to over come the steps.

Sometimes you just have to go for it. Watch this space! (It may take some time mind you.)

Cheers, Tony

 

[big soft moose]

I did have a brain wave :idea: I could get a small motorised vehicle for travelling up and down the garden. If I invested in a second hand golf buggy I could also use this at the golf club which is only just round the corner. I could easily drive there from home.

Something like this;

http://www.ukgolfbuggies.co.uk/used-ezgo.html

I could modify the back to carry timber in a small way. I could also make an alternative route to the top of the garden with a ramp to over come the steps.

you can get golf buggies ready modified to have a pick up back - they are largely used by greens staff so have a word with the head green keeper next time you are on the course and he can probably point you in the right direction

things to watch out for are

a) the second hand electric models go wrong (a lot) and are expensive to fix when they do break - i was a green keeper for three years and our second hand electric pick up cart went wrong at least four times in that period - costing more than its value in total to repair. Buy a petrol model as even though more expensive initlly they work out cheaper in the long run.

b) a lot of courses wont let people bring thier own buggies on , so check that before you buy

c) if you are planning on driving it to and from the course note that most buggies arent road legal, and those that are, are more expensive

d) how are you going to regularly get the buggy from the front of the house to the back ? - driving down those steps regularly will not do it a lot of good and driving up them will be nigh on impossible.

 

[big soft moose]

Thanks for the replies fellas,

It is true having to position the workshop so far from the house is a bind, not least when working on a projects in doors, or when you need that handy tool.

My options are so limited as the whole garden is on a slope apart from a small grassy area which is basically our back lawn, used by the children and is rather nice to sit in, like this afternoon. Missus has forbidden building there as well.

The advantages of building on the site of the former summerhouse are;

The building will not be within two metres of the boundary which may bring some PP advantages.
Electric and water already in place.
I can build an almost square shop, rather than a longer but more narrow building and may be able to go a bit higher as well.

I have mellowed regarding my concerns over machinery, but will have to set aside plans for a big felder at 500kg+. Where there is a will there will be away, may require some specialist help or equipment, or just six heavies.

I did have a brain wave :idea: I could get a small motorised vehicle for travelling up and down the garden. If I invested in a second hand golf buggy I could also use this at the golf club which is only just round the corner. I could easily drive there from home.

Something like this;

http://www.ukgolfbuggies.co.uk/used-ezgo.html

I could modify the back to carry timber in a small way. I could also make an alternative route to the top of the garden with a ramp to over come the steps.

Sometimes you just have to go for it. Watch this space! (It may take some time mind you.)

Cheers, Tony

 

[woodbloke]

Tony - I didn't mean to put a dampener on the project, it's just the idea of getting a lot of heavy machinery up a long slope gives me the willies. If however, that is the only option, then you must go for it, but just be very careful in the moving operation...thanks again for the Prize, very nice :wink: - Rob

 

[OPJ]

...getting a lot of heavy machinery up a long slope...

Yep, normally, you'd be heading in the opposite direction! :roll:

 

[woodbloke]

...getting a lot of heavy machinery up a long slope...

Yep, normally, you'd be heading in the opposite direction! :roll:

...and not just me :lol: :lol: - Rob

 

[Escudo]

By way of an update;

I telephoned Felder to ask about machinery given that this was the heaviest and more likely I assumed to be able to be reassembled in situ (Given their service / maintenance department).

They have seen the pictures and do not see any problem in moving the machinery up to the workshop. In fact they have experience of challenging delivery situations. 500kg+ I was shocked that this was possible :shock:

Although, my concerns regarding machinery seem to be easing.

The workmen came round to begin the process of removing the old summerhouse, this was quite rotten in places and will need some repair work before reassembly.

I will post some more pictures of the site when this is cleared.

I think I have an opportunity to make the building quite tall, maybe a storey and a half (5m+?). The landscaping behind is approx 2m from ground level. Held up by a retained wall. I am going to check planning and building Regs. I think I can go 4m up from highest ground level within 1m.

This project is going to take some time and will cost a few bob as well.

Still scanning ebay for an old golf buggy, to help with moving items up and down, me included.

Cheers, Tony.

 

[Petiegolfer]

What is at the back of the garden? If it is someone elses garden could you ask if they are willing for you to have access to get the machines / bulk of the materials in?

Piers

 

[Corset]

I have come to this post a bit late and while it does seem like a big job I think with a bit of thought it will go ok. I have the a hammer b3 saw spindle and I have had to move it twice in the last 8 months. What surprised me is how much of the machine you can take off to save weight and reduce the foot print. I took my 2m sliding table off to help get it in the van and it was pretty straightforward to get it back in. Plus you can take off the cast iron table I believe with spanners and that is a alot of weight. I also belive the the thicknesser seperates from the saw if you have the combi. The manual state s that all felder/hammer can go through an 80cm doorway if required. :shock:
Owen

 

[Escudo]

All the gardens around, neighbours left and right and behind meet at a point which is the top of a high point over looking the town. I think this is called Bunker Hill.

All the gardens are on slopes to varying degrees and access is very poor. The issues I have are the same for all my neighbours.

The view from the top is special, probably the best in the whole town. Perfect for a studio, home office, or even workshop, not withstanding the climb to get there!

Corset how do you find the hammer saw table? and what do you use it for? It is reassuring to think that such a heavy machine can be moved and dismantled without too much difficulty.

More pics to follow when the site is cleared.

Cheers, Tony.