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jimi43":ipzo8w0i said:
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I thought that was a little harsh jumping in on John like that Mr G....i
Yes righto sorry John. I misread you - I thought you were saying that it was against conservation etc. but you were just anticipating complaints from elsewhere.

Green woodwork is a Ray Mears thing as well. That was a popular series. I think there is a lot of back to basics feeling growing, partly a reaction to climate change and also to crazy economics and rubbish products, bankers IKEA etc.
 
mr grimsdale":3oiiyduy said:
jimi43":3oiiyduy said:
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I thought that was a little harsh jumping in on John like that Mr G....i
Yes righto sorry John. I misread you - I thought you were saying that it was against conservation etc. but you were just anticipating complaints from elsewhere.

Green woodwork is a Ray Mears thing as well. That was a popular series. I think there is a lot of back to basics feeling growing, partly a reaction to climate change and also to crazy economics and rubbish products, bankers IKEA etc.

:wink:
 
I'm not sure if it is a problem that woodworking (or fishing or knitting) isn't given air time on the mainstream channels. Those channels are mainstream because they are trying to please everyone in a 'family' who may be watching. So that man, wife, kids, granny, the dog, can all sit there and get something out of the programme. In most cases that works in that environment. My wife watched the Monty Don programme (under moderate protest admittedly) and was able to enjoy the 'story', even though she couldn't relate to the craft. The smaller, more niche channels are supposed to be more aimed at a specific demographic. However, there isn't a channel that is properly devoted to crafts. I know we have 'Shed', but that's still trying to aim at too wider market. Collectively, there must be a big enough market in the UK to devote a channel that is focused on programming that covers crafts in a more intelligent manner than Tommy Walsh or Carol Smiley is delivering. Obviously it couldn't all be woodworking. But as a woodworking nerd, I can still appreciate thatching, stone masonry, small scale engineering, car restoration, etc etc. I just wish they would make those programmes with the proper demographic in mind as opposed to trying to please everyone in order to improve ratings.

What a load of wishful thinking. This is why I barely turn on the TV any more. There is a place where you could get the content we all want.... The Internet. But, certainly in the UK, we're a long way off that being reality.
 
NP Jacob... I do despair of the Beeb. Like Jim, I am sick of these cookery programmes (Especially the odious pair of ego-maniacs who present Masterchef!) On the other hand, I like to dabble in the kitchen, and the 'Hairy-Bikers' come up with some nice recipes!


As for deforesting - I suppose growing Palms for Palm-oil is farming. And that's causing forests to disappear.

Sheep farming is the reason we can see the Highland mountains, in all their 'rugged grandeur'. (And most of the Lake District's Mountains too)

In Scotland they are redressing the problem by cutting back on sheep farming, and re planting. It will take some years I guess, but eventually the Highlands (At least the lower slopes) will be covered with trees. I love trees, but I also like to see mountains too. You just can't please everyone all of the time!

Tom probably has it right and we can see the Internet as a better alternative to TV. There's always Iplayer for the programmes we do like!

And Maybe we is getting off topic folks.

John :)
 
Well, I'd happily make all the programmes one could possibly want about any creative subject. I enjoy the film-making as much as I enjoy woodwork. The problem for me is Budget. It's just so expensive. OK, I don't have to lay out much hard cash these days. I have most of what I need. (Except that my camcorder is on the blink and I don't think it's fixable :( )

But if I had to charge for my time, it would be prohibitive. I know the beeb has a bit more money than I do, but even so, someone, somewhere has to justify the expenditure and if the audiences really are small for such specialist programmes, then that budget will not be forthcoming.

What we need is to discover that 10M people were watching MD last Friday. That would alter things. Unfortunately, I don't think that's going to happen. But it's what happened to Ground Force and look how popular, and well-funded, that became.
S
 
Perhaps someone could get the script writers to include a woodworker/hobbyist in Coronation St. or Eastenders and you got two minutes per night exposure might be the way to go?
 
Evans-the-Wood paused, the iron wavering in the air, mid-strop.

Surely if the victim had just fallen into the oven, things would have been very different: there would have been a burning smell, there would've been no reason for one finger to be missing (apparently surgically removed), and there would have been much less blood.

And how to achieve the necessary height beforehand? The oven was at least four feet off the ground and there was no sign of a stepladder anywhere.

It didn't make any sense.

He held his breath as he slid the blade back into the No. 3. Don't nick the corners this time, you *****, he told himself. Seven hours had been spent on that perfect edge only the week before, to see it reduced to a cabinet scraper when the phone had made him jump. Note to self: do NOT, ever again, sharpen anything on top of the saw table, no matter how temptingly flat it looks.

Yet it was that very call, from sergeant Dowel down at the station, which had started him on the whole adventure, he mused... he mused a bit more... then he thought perhaps he ought to get on with it really.

Squaring up to the bench, he turned his full attention to the piece of ash before him. Five minutes later, the pile of still-steaming shavings told him his mind wasn't on the job. He selected another block, removing the sliver from the vice with a pair of tweezers. Note to self: muse or plane -- don't try to do both together.

He ought to re-examine the facts, really carefully.

The ash, substantially smaller, but now properly octagonal, seemed to flinch as the centres bit into it. Time to concentrate: he wasn't making a pencil, after all. He turned-to. Shavings flew in all directions, but he ignored the cliche (and the terrible pun). He was going to make it work this time. And the job might get done as well, and Mrs. E might just stop yelling at him.

Back at the bench, Evans reached for the fretsaw. In one graceful and fluid movement He removed the pencil from behind his ear, cursed, and vowed to reverse the order next time.

Grabbing a handful of shavings to staunch the cut, an idea struck him forcefully. Curses! They were all so thin as to be transparent! He found a larger, thicker curl, and stretched it flat between two offcuts. It would have to do.

He started to sketch out the crime scene. Luigi's Pizza Parlour had only two doors, one for customers and one for the staff at the back. Whoever had done the deed -- and he was convinced it was murder -- must have used the back door, both to sneak in and to escape after the grisly deed. There was the cash register, and there was the apparently fatal oven. There just wasn't time, nor distance...

Suddenly remembering the piece of ash, he clamped it in the jig, and deftly marked his trademark 'V' shape with the pencil. Time was short, evidently: freehand would just have to do. He reached again (carefully this time) for the fretsaw.

The alibis all checked out. Pull. The 'friends' from Italy seemed genuine enough. Pull. The cash was all there. Pull. Luigi's hundreds of 'tomato' plants though, were all gone. Pull.

The cut was deep enough. He slid the saw out. It was time for the other side.

Sometimes, he knew, he missed the mundane clue. Pull. It must be there though, hidden in plain sight. Pull. Go through it all again. Pull.

With a satisfying 'click' the centre of the 'V' detached itself and dropped away. It was done, AND he knew what was amiss!

Rushing from the workshop, he grabbed his keys from the hook by the door. Flinging the peg at a shocked Mrs. Evans, who was still holding the corner of the wet sheet over the line, he leaped into the van and reached for the ignition.

It was the chisel! OF COURSE IT WAS THE CHISEL. His very own 3/8 morticer that he was so used to seeing in its usual place above the bench. Dowel had mentioned it, but he'd dismissed it at the outset as being irrelevant...

... What had it been doing buried deep in the chest of the victim?
 
Eric The Viking":241aw59b said:
Evans-the-Wood paused, the iron wavering in the air, mid-strop.
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Back at the bench, Evans reached for the fretsaw. In one graceful and fluid movement He removed the pencil from behind his ear, cursed, and vowed to reverse the order next time. ....

Genius :) We wait with baited breath for the next instalment...
 
miles_hot":3r00rd3p said:
Genius :) We wait with baited breath for the next instalment...

Dunno 'bout that. Killing off the pot heads is a displacement activity really -- today I is mainly supposed to be plumbing :(

<later> just discovered the ***** before me used a really cheap trick and the pipes don't run in a sensible direction at all. Instead of one joint to tidy a load of useless stuff and clear the wall for shelving, it's now hours of work shifting furniture, breaking into the old side attic again, drilling joists, and so on. I should've guessed: you can always tell it's a cowboy when you find a compression fitting in the middle of a straight pipe run for no obvious reason...

I could have swapped the roles around to better effect: if it had been Mrs. Evans, I guess we could have had the No.3 (Ladies) detective agency.

Cheers.

S.
 
Hi,

I thought the womans part might have been written for her, weak and feeble woman struggling with everything then Monty gives her a talking to and she gets to grips with it, nearly beating the boys. A cliche worthy of Casualty.

Apart from that I enjoyed it.


Pete
 
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