Metabo v festool sanders

[Anonymous]

Hi all

i have been asked (not by a member) whether the dust collection on the Metabo is as good as the festool equivalent

As i don't own ether I cannot advise.

They and have tried both and tell me that both seemed to sand the same and had very little vibration. however, with no shop vac attached the dust collection remains a mystery

So, the person who asked the question is only interested in dust collection adn doesn't seem phased by the £100 price differeence :shock:.

Can you let me have your experiences please?

Ta

 

[dedee]

Tony,
I have the Metabo 450 duo. Attached to a shop vac the amount of visible dust both in the air and on the wood is negligible. The supplied dust bag OTOH is useless.

I cannot see how the extraction on any other sander could be better.

Andy

 

[Jake]

I do not have the Metabo, but I do have a Bosch GEX-thingy with the six hole pattern and a Rotex with a nine hole pattern - the former picks up most dust, but the Festool does pick up more of it. The easiest way to tell is sanding something really fine like (plaster based) filler, where you can see the difference in the air. You can also tell because the paper clogs much less on the rotex if you are sanding something like paint where the dust balls up, heats up and clogs the paper if it isn't sucked off the surface immediately.

The only way I think you could really tell on wood would be by wiping a finger across the wood - it would be cleaner after a sanding with the Rotex than with the Bosch. So, I think the difference would show more on finishes than on bare wood, but they are definitely there.

But, the Bosch isn't a Metabo, it just shares the same basic hole pattern.

 

[Newbie_Neil]

Tony

I have the Metabo SXE450 attached to the Trend 30AF and I find it excellent.

Cheers
Neil

PS As a matter of principle, I also wear a face mask.

 

[spadge]

Tony,

I have the Metabo SXE450 and attach it to a big shop vac and whilst I cannot compare it to the Festool I also find the dust extraction excellent.

In fact I used this combination last week to take all the red paint off a bike petrol tank and there was very little red dust anywhere (other than in the vac of course).

Cheers

Grahame

 

[andys wood shed]

Hi Tony

Don't know if this post from Scrit is useful

https://www.ukworkshop.co.uk/forums/view ... hp?t=16369

Andy

 

[Waka]

Tony

This will surprize you, I have the festool ROS with dust extraction and it is excellent. I'm not going to say that it is better than the matebo becasue I understand that it is also excellent. If he's (not Bean is it) not concerned about the extra money then I recommend the festool ROS with the festool mini.

 

[Bob Childress]

Although I have the Rotex 150 (which has excellent DC) and have not tried the Metabo, I will mildly contend that the vac you hook to it will make a large difference as well. Even my Porter-Cable 125mm ROS and P/C finishing sander offer very good DC when hooked to the Festo CT-22. Where money is at issue, one might want to consider a Festool vac coupled with a less expensive sander.

 

[Anonymous]

T (not Bean is it)

You guessed! :wink:

Nah, a mate who doesn't use computers and so not online

Neil, i am really surprised that you don't have the Festool (mainly because I thought you bought one a couple of years ago at Woodex - must have been Steve)

 

[davidc1075]

I had the metabo and sold it to a forum member, I now have a rotex. The metabo is very good and I used a trend t30af with it but the festool is better in my opinion for what its worth. The discs last longer and I have stopped using my belt sander as the rotex is just brilliant for fast removal down to finishing. But the big difference is price, I was lucky enough to have the rotex bought for me but I have used it alot over the last year and have no reason to think that I wouldn't be using it for many more years.

 

[ByronBlack]

I'm another Metabo + Trend combo and DX is superb, almost no dust about at all. After reading many reviews of the sanders, I find it almost impossible to justify the price of the festool over the metabo, i'm well chuffed with the metabo and would definitly buy another if it ever got stolen.

 

[cyberdog]

I have the SXE450 with the ASR2025 it is excellent. extraction shoudl be used at all times when sanding as i find without it dust gets trapped in the sandign grit and ruins your material. the SXE450 gave me a great mirror finnish.

 

[TheDudester]

Hi Tony

Don't know if this post from Scrit is useful

https://www.ukworkshop.co.uk/forums/view ... hp?t=16369

Andy

The hole in the centre of the sanding disc is used to push the dust to the holes on the outside of the disc.

There is a video on the Festool USA website if anyone wants to see it. Around time code 4m is the part I am talking about.

This is the link. Once the page appears click on sanders.

Regards

D

 

[aurrida]

there is no comparison, festool are the better tools for a number of reasons, including dust extraction. and if money is no object...

 

[ivan]

I think FW did a test that put the Festool prety much at the top for dust collection and handling. A dual orbit Metabo lookalike got best value, but was regarded as too heavy for vertical use (Festool is very light). The 125 Festool got the clapometer in the smaller size. I have this one, very little vibration, no dust with the vac (Attix) attached.

 

[Anonymous]

there is no comparison, festool are the better tools for a number of reasons, including dust extraction.

Having used both I would not agree. Both exhibit little vibration and leave almost no dust behind when connected to an extractor. There is nothing really between them.

I would say it comes down to who is your preferred manufacturer. Festool or Metabo?

With the dual speed option on the Metabo and the huge difference in pricing, I recommended that to my friend and bought one myself a year ago. I cannot fault it in any way what so ever (particullary dust extraction - I do not need a dust mask when using it)


For the record, I do rate Fetool tools very highly on performance (I own one), but not on pricing :shock:

 

[aurrida]

i think its important to differentiate between the two. festool make tools for professions workshops and contractors. thier sister company, protool.de also make cheaper tools for trade workers. matebo is essentially servicing a diy market, albeit the top end. both will do the job fine, but festool will do it all day every day.

 

[gardenshed]

I can't believe a post has been revived from way back in May 2007 :shock:

 

[aurrida]

i guess when someone asks a comparative question and varied opinions have been given. in the course of a normal debate then it inevitable that old arguments will be rehashed. i dont see this as a problem, things change, opinions change and newer members have different incites.

to argue that something has been debated, and some final conclusion has been reached in 2007, never to be debated again, does not helps the person who want to advice his friend what to buy. neither does it allow someone, namely me, to comment on something that i believe to be misleading. if there is a belief here that metebo is on some sort of level as festool then i guess this debate will continue well into the future.

 

[chippy1970]

I have the Metabo 450 duo and never see any sign of dust but it is connected to a Festool Midi vac :lol: