Looking for cornice moulding.

[John Brown]

I am hoping to find something to match the existing cornice in our kitchen. The kitchen was apparently bespoke made for the previous owners, but I doubt whoever made it ran the mouldings themselves, so I'm guessing it is available from somewhere.
I will try to attach a bad drawing I made from a profile gauge. The top of the moulding is at the zero end of the tape measure. The barely visible dotted lines represent roughly vertical and horizontal.

 

[deema]

Well, if I’d made the kitchen, anything like that I’d have made bespoke! Not only would it be a selling feature but it would help / ensure that any future modifications / additions would come back to me as they wouldn’t be able to find off the shelf stuff. A set of custom spindle cutters to make it aren't that expensive. Either from an accurate trace, drawing or sample of the cornice any decent spindle tooling cutting business can make a cutter for it.
I’d have a look on Whitehill Tools web site to see if it’s one of their standard cutters, but I don't think it us.

 

[Spectric]

Look at Infinity cutters, may have something close. Router Bits - Infinity Tools

 

[doctor Bob]

Well, if I’d made the kitchen, anything like that I’d have made bespoke! Not only would it be a selling feature but it would help / ensure that any future modifications / additions would come back to me as they wouldn’t be able to find off the shelf stuff.

I have never been asked in over 20 years of bespoke kitchen manufacture, "whether we make our own cornice"......................... I'm sorry, I don't believe it's a selling feature, I don't think a customer would have a clue whether it was bespoke or not. I'm not for or against making it.

 

[Woody2Shoes]

I think you could make some up using a couple of router cutters e.g.:
https://www.wealdentool.com/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Large_Ovolo_Round_187.htmlhttps://www.wealdentool.com/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Core_Box_202.html

 

[John Brown]

Ok. Thanks.
I don't have a spindle moulder, and I don't think it would be worth buying one for 2 metres of cornice. I was hoping someone might recognise it, or point me to a stockist.

 

[C64]

Take a look at the cornices in WRP timber mouldings and see if anything resembles yours. Otherwise, for 2m-odd run, go on eBay get yourself a pair of hollow and rounds!

 

[Richard S]

Try Dresser Mouldings
https://www.dressermouldings.com/wp-content/cache/all/index.html

 

[Droogs]

You could replicate that with qa cove bit and a round over bit of the correct diameters.

 

[Richard S]

You could replicate that with the right bit of moulding.

 

[John Brown]

Thanks.
I can't find anything remotely similar at WRP or Dresser.
Looks like I'd need a no 18 round plane, and a no 16 hollow. I'm struggling to find anything in the way of router cutters from Wealdon. I'll check out the bits and pieces I have somewhere for my combination plane, but I dont' think there's anything that big.
I've bought a pair of hollows and rounds. It will be interesting to see if I can produce something remotely similar...

 

[Inspector]

If the new wood isn't being joined end for end to the old then I would cut most of the moulding with the table saw. Cut the 38º/52º or whatever the back angles are then the edges with the blade tilted. Maybe the other 90º cut and then cut to the line with the blade until a tooth touches the profile line, step over the blade width and repeat. Continue until the profile is roughed out. Then you can finish with a round and a hollow or flat plane if you have to followed by sandpaper on blocks until the profile is completed and smooth. Won't take long to make a couple metres or more since you are setup anyway and having extra ensures you won't botch it up.

Pete

 

[Bromley]

When building my wardrobes, I simply went online and found Victorian Emporium. They have a good selection of mouldings and although carriage is expensive, (£42), delivery is very quick, and the mouldings themselves are cheap and well-made in pine.
Sorry, I know that isn't a proper Craftsman's response!

 

[okeydokey]

If the previous owners are still contactable ask them who did the kitchen

 

[John Brown]

If the new wood isn't being joined end for end to the old then I would cut most of the moulding with the table saw. Cut the 38º/52º or whatever the back angles are then the edges with the blade tilted. Maybe the other 90º cut and then cut to the line with the blade until a tooth touches the profile line, step over the blade with ad repeat. Continue until the profile is roughed out. Then you can finish with a round and a hollow or flat plane if you have to followed by sandpaper on blocks until the profile is completed and smooth. Won't take long to make a couple metres or more since you are setup anyway and having extra ensures you won't botch it up.

Pete

Thanks. I'll bear that in mind.

 

[John Brown]

When building my wardrobes, I simply went online and found Victorian Emporium. They have a good selection of mouldings and although carriage is expensive, (£42), delivery is very quick, and the mouldings themselves are cheap and well-made in pine.
Sorry, I know that isn't a proper Craftsman's response!

Thanks. I took a look, but no luck. They don't seem to have a cornice category.

 

[John Brown]

If the previous owners are still contactable ask them who did the kitchen

Just discussed this with the boss. Apparently it was the previous previous previous owners. The kitchen maker may well have met his maker by now..

 

[John Brown]

I think you could make some up using a couple of router cutters e.g.:
https://www.wealdentool.com/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Large_Ovolo_Round_187.htmlhttps://www.wealdentool.com/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Core_Box_202.html

Thanks. I'll keep that in mind. Could be a fairly pricey 2m of moulding, though.

 

[John Brown]

I have never been asked in over 20 years of bespoke kitchen manufacture, "whether we make our own cornice"......................... I'm sorry, I don't believe it's a selling feature, I don't think a customer would have a clue whether it was bespoke or not. I'm not for or against making it.

Do you make your own cornice, Bob?
Not just a smartass question, just trying to find a source...

If push comes to shove, I suppose I could use something vaguely similar, if I replaced the moulding on the "paired" cupboard.

 

[doctor Bob]

Do you make your own cornice, Bob?
Not just a smartass question, just trying to find a source...

If push comes to shove, I suppose I could use something vaguely similar, if I replaced the moulding on the "paired" cupboard.

50/50 really. I have 2 fairly standard profiles we use. I get these machined 300 -500m at a time.
I reckon one of my old stock cornices is similar to yours, I'll take a pic on monday.