Kitchen cabinets.

[Jar944]

Working on a kitchen currently. 28.5 mil Maple doors/drawers, mdf panels.

 

[sammy.se]

Looks great!!
I take it you are making the doors snug to the frame, and then shooting or sanding down to size? What gap are you aiming for, given the expansion/contraction you might expect...

 

[TRITON]

Maple too, and that stuff has got a habit of shifting a fair bit seasonal.

Make sure its done in winter for maximum sizes My TV unit I did in maple and it makes some fair old noises from winter to summer.

Very very nice workmanship by the way. Mind and show off the completed build

 

[Jar944]

Looks great!!
I take it you are making the doors snug to the frame, and then shooting or sanding down to size? What gap are you aiming for, given the expansion/contraction you might expect...

Correct. I prefer to fit the doors/drawers tight to the frames then cut the gaps for all doors at once. In this case I'll be going for .070" all around the doors.

As for how I cut the doors for the expansion gaps. ill do it on the planer or spindle moulder.

 

[Jar944]

Maple too, and that stuff has got a habit of shifting a fair bit seasonal.

Make sure its done in winter for maximum sizes My TV unit I did in maple and it makes some fair old noises from winter to summer.

Very very nice workmanship by the way. Mind and show off the completed build

I find maple (and this kitchen is mostly soft maple) to be relatively stable, or at least as stable as poplar (tulip).

This was tulip

 

[doctor Bob]

very nicely done.

 

[Ollie78]

Very smart.

 

[Raclettefordinner]

Nice workmanship! Can I ask how you joined your maple face frame together?

 

[planesleuth]

The reason Maple moves more in UK? We get all the sub standard US timber exports. Nice workmanship for sure but really easy with the equipment you have. Biggest problem? So yesterday, designs from 40 years ago. Try summut new, fgs !

 

[Sgian Dubh]

The reason Maple moves more in UK? We get all the sub standard US timber exports.

You'll need to come up with verifiable evidence to substantiate that claim to convince me of its veracity, because what you said, possibly (hopefully?) meant as a tongue-in-cheek and throwaway joke, doesn't match what I know about North American lumber grading, packing, shipping and export practices. Slainte.

PS. High quality workmanship demonstrated in the cabinetry shown, by the way.

 

[guineafowl21]

Very nice! A few basic questions:

Would you mind showing which cutters were used for the joinery, and how you approach the glue-up in those tulip cabinet frames? I find it hard to locate those thin astragals correctly, and keep them tight up against the profile.

Also, assuming they are to be glazed, how to you fit the glass?

 

[Amateur]

What I can't understand, and not only this project and it's not a dig at the quality of work, why you would use selected timber and then paint it black?

 

[Cabinetman]

Very nice workmanship Jar, most impressed. I suppose the answer to why you would paint such nice wood is that it’s what the client wants, and the alternative to tulip or maple is something not as good and it would cause problems in the manufacture or in the future, but I quite agree it does seem a shame to paint it. I was working on a home cinema very similar to that when I was last in the US, it’s almost dark when you go in and it’s definitely dark when it’s being used and it’s a real shame because they won’t see those lovely doors. Ian

 

[Jar944]

Nice workmanship! Can I ask how you joined your maple face frame together?

The frames are pocket screwed and glued together.

 

[Jar944]

The reason Maple moves more in UK? We get all the sub standard US timber exports. Nice workmanship for sure but really easy with the equipment you have. Biggest problem? So yesterday, designs from 40 years ago. Try summut new, fgs !

As long as it doesn't look modern. I would be curious to hear what part of the design is dared, its "in" over here currently.

very nicely done.

Thanks

 

[recipio]

That video is painful to watch. I can see the endgrain of the styles breaking out at the end of the pass and taking piecemeal cuts will throw the door out of square. Better to use an accurate table saw or a hand plane.

 

[Jar944]

PS. High quality workmanship demonstrated in the cabinetry shown, by the way.

Thanks. I Appreciate the compliment

 

[Jar944]

That video is painful to watch. I can see the endgrain of the styles breaking out at the end of the pass and taking piecemeal cuts will throw the door out of square. Better to use an accurate table saw or a hand plane.

If you notice in the video there is a partial cut before the door is flipped and the cut is finished. No way to blow the end grain out as its always supported, and the unsupported part never passed over the cutterhead.

As for piecemeal cuts, its one cut per edge.

This is not that uncommon of a method over here.

 

[Jar944]

Very nice! A few basic questions:

Would you mind showing which cutters were used for the joinery, and how you approach the glue-up in those tulip cabinet frames? I find it hard to locate those thin astragals correctly, and keep them tight up against the profile.

Also, assuming they are to be glazed, how to you fit the glass?

The tulip frame (home theater cabinetry) was cut with a cmt head

Assuming you are talking about gluing up the door? Its just making sure the parts are the correct length
Here is a picture of those doors in process

The glass is held in with a dab of silicone and glazing beads.

What I can't understand, and not only this project and it's not a dig at the quality of work, why you would use selected timber and then paint it black?

Maple, and tulip are considered paint grade woods here, with maple being a upgrade over tulip. (Less grain telegraphing through the paint and more resistance to dents) Those two woods are relatively inexpensive as well. Most of that maple was $1 a board foot, making it about as expensive as the lowwer grades of MDF.
The other reason is Mdf is generally locked down on in custom work (some people won't even use it for center panels).

Very nice workmanship Jar, most impressed. I suppose the answer to why you would paint such nice wood is that it’s what the client wants, and the alternative to tulip or maple is something not as good and it would cause problems in the manufacture or in the future, but I quite agree it does seem a shame to paint it. I was working on a home cinema very similar to that when I was last in the US, it’s almost dark when you go in and it’s definitely dark when it’s being used and it’s a real shame because they won’t see those lovely doors. Ian

Thanks.
Yes basically, but the cost difference between maple and an alternative is really minimal compared to the cost of the whole project.

 

[Amateur]

Maple, and tulip are considered paint grade woods here, with maple being a upgrade over tulip. (Less grain telegraphing through the paint and more resistance to dents) Those two woods are relatively inexpensive as well. Most of that maple was $1 a board foot, making it about as expensive as the lowwer grades of MDF.
The other reason is Mdf is generally locked down on in custom work (some people won't even use it for center panels).

Thanks. I understand now