(K)nickers

[CONGER]

I recall having seen a shoulder plane with (k)nickers... but I am damned if I can find it again. I recall it was from a contemporary manufacturer... and the nickers were of a funny wheel variety... any hints? I would have guessed LN?

-gerard-

 

[Philly]

Was it this?
Philly

 

[CONGER]

Yup Philly... thassit... selective blindness... I will have to go back to the Jameson!

Now... ULMIA offer a wooden 'fillester' plane...

... which has a nicker. Is there a metal equivalent to this plane?

The data sheet for the ULMIA plane is at: http://www.ulmia.de/English/Downloads/15.PDF

-gerard-

 

[Scrit]

A rebate plane such as the Stanley #78 / Recrd #078 or the much better Record #778 /Woden #A78 would do the job and they have nickers both sides

The better design has two fence rods which stops the fence from loosening in use (and they really do)

Scrit

 

[MarcW]

Hi Conger,

You could use a Jack Rabbet too. It has no fence yet, but a clamped batten will do.

Regards, Marc

 

[MikeW]

...Now... ULMIA offer a wooden 'fillester' plane...

... which has a nicker. Is there a metal equivalent to this plane?
-gerard-

Hi Gerard,

fwiw, having all of the above planes at some point in time, and still having all except the Stanley/Record examples and the Ulmia, I still find myself reaching for a wood moving fillister more often. For anything involving heavy removal, I use the LN bench rabbet Marc shows.

Most of the vintage moving fillisters I have run across have a skewed blade, which I find beneficial for cross grain applications.

Take care, Mike

 

[Scrit]

You could use a Jack Rabbet too. It has no fence yet, but a clamped batten will do.

I wouldn't regard a #10 or #10-1/2 as suitable for the task in most cases as they are too big and clumsy to work anything but a large rebate. Main use I've found for them is cleaning up joinery-size shoulders and tenon cheeks

Scrit

 

[Mirboo]

I recall having seen a shoulder plane with (k)nickers... but I am damned if I can find it again. I recall it was from a contemporary manufacturer... and the nickers were of a funny wheel variety... any hints? I would have guessed LN?

-gerard-

I remember seeing a picture on a forum somewhere that showed a Lie-Nielsen Rabbet Block Plane (not the skew one) which had the small round nickers fitted to both sides. The modification had been done by Lie-Nielsen as a special order. The Lie-Nielsen Rabbet Block Plane is not usually available with nickers. I think I saw this on Woodcentral but I have been unable to find the picture via a search of that forum.

 

[MarcW]

Yes Ian,

Ask Scott Burr from WC, he's the one with the nickered LN Sargent #507.

Regards, Marc

 

[MarcW]

I wouldn't regard a #10 or #10-1/2 as suitable for the task in most cases as they are too big and clumsy to work anything but a large rebate. Main use I've found for them is cleaning up joinery-size shoulders and tenon cheeks

Scrit

Sure Scrit, the jack rabbet plays on big rebates. But now why wouldn't one use a combination plane for the small rebatres? A #45 is as good as a rabbet plane, it has a good fence and lots of knives. #-o Why didn't we think earlier of it? I often used the Ulmia fillister until I got the Stanley #45, for me metal works better in this task.

Regards, Marc

 

[Scrit]

Sure Scrit, the jack rabbet plays on big rebates. But now why wouldn't one use a combination plane for the small rebatres? A #45 is as good as a rabbet plane, it has a good fence and lots of knives. #-o Why didn't we think earlier of it? I often used the Ulmia fillister until I got the Stanley #45, for me metal works better in this task.

Hi Marc

I was taught to use a Woden #A78 (?? - twin stem) before being allowed near a spindle moulder. I find that a purpose-made plane beats a combi hands down and the extra weight and size make a #45 a slower and more wearisome tool to use for prolonged periods IMHO

Scrit

 

[Alf]

I find that a purpose-made plane beats a combi hands down

Despite being the world's biggest Boat Anchor Fan, I fear I can only agree.

Doesn't hurt any that it also means I can justify another plane mind you. :wink: And a spare...

Cheers, Alf

 

[MarcW]

I find that a purpose-made plane beats a combi hands down

Despite being the world's biggest Boat Anchor Fan, I fear I can only agree.
...

Scrit, Alf,

I agree, setting up is that tedious, but advantage of a #45 is its fence. Compared to the Ulmia fillister's it's huge. The fence on the Ulmia is indeed nothing but a gauge for the width. It won't make sure you will keep the plane's side square to the board. At each shaving I check squareness to the side, above all at the beginning. Maybe a #78 is better, I don't know, one day I will see :lol:

Have a nice evening,

Marc