January Competition Project Discussion

[Pvt_Ryan]

Just a quick thanks again to Roger for today. Lots of very good advice and some good pieces of wood too.

 

[Hudson Carpentry]

Thank you Miles, i may just do that once i figure my schedule for this month.

Well after taking your advice on here and lowered the rest it started working great. Slicing rather then ramming. It started to go really well until ............

I caught the edge. I was gutted, not far off from finished. As the rules say no piercing i glued up another blank but had to go out for the rest of the day. Before i popped out i cut off just below the damage to continue turning a shallow bowl.

I was finding it hard, it was getting difficult to get the gouge into the bowl without the tail being in the way.

 

[miles_hot]

I was finding it hard, it was getting difficult to get the gouge into the bowl without the tail being in the way.

Gosh that's annoying when it happens - had it many times just wait until you have actually finished it and then (once you have a chuck and some cole jaws) you're reversing it to sort out the bottom and have a catch because you lost concentration and feel bits of it pinging off your face visor! :evil: . The important thing is to work out what you did wrong and try to remember not to do it again (which can be hard as you try to remember the 20 other things you've also done wrong!).

If you're finding it hard to get in there because of the tail stock maybe you can produce a more open bowl? It will naturally be more shallow but if you've got limitations due to the tail stock work around them rather than fighting it. You could also consider a scraper which is a little less sensitive to angles. I know than some people have the interesting view that real turners don't scrape but I think that's tosh and you use the tool for the wood and your situation!.

Keep at it - you'll get such a buzz when you produce something after all the set backs.

Miles

 

[cambournepete]

I know than some people have the interesting view that real turners don't scrape

Try tellng that to Tracy Owen for one...

It is, as you say, tosh

 

[Blister]

I know than some people have the interesting view that real turners don't scrape

Try tellng that to Tracy Owen for one...

It is, as you say, tosh

And the one and only Richard Raffan :mrgreen:

 

[János]

Hello,

A few turning tools used above the centre line of the workpiece:

-Chatter tools
-Beading and parting tool
-Skew chisel
-Straight chisel
-Single bevel straight chisel (bedan)
-All scrapers in faceplate work or end-grain hollowing

Dear Ryan, you can do make bowls without a factory made commercial scroll-chuck. Turners were/are of the self-reliant kind, and made most of their own equipment. You have a faceplate, so you can make a cup chuck like the one in this tread lathe-tools-selfmade-t46864.html in no time. This type of chuck is adequate to hold a small bowl safely.

By,

János

 

[Pvt_Ryan]

Thanks for the link and tip János, I have a tap to make threads for my lathe so I can make up some home made screw chucks etc, problem was I got a BSW instead of a UNC so I need to return it and get it swapped.

 

[Hudson Carpentry]

Balls After being really proud of my now completed bowl turned on the centres, i think i can't enter it into the comp. To finish the bowls design i used a bead gouge to create one bead around a part of my bowl. I decided that bead would look better black or burnt so wondered to the thread with rules to see if it can be entered with on finish applied (so after i enter it into the comp i can paint or burn the bead and finish). I then saw ....... No texturing or carving #-o Now am i assuming correctly that a bead would be classed as texture and carving?

 

[SVB]

I would of thought, as the bead is turned rather than an off-lathe or non-turning produced enhancement, it should be perfectly fine - don't count it out yet!

Simon

 

[Blister]

Balls After being really proud of my now completed bowl turned on the centres, i think i can't enter it into the comp. To finish the bowls design i used a bead gouge to create one bead around a part of my bowl. I decided that bead would look better black or burnt so wondered to the thread with rules to see if it can be entered with on finish applied (so after i enter it into the comp i can paint or burn the bead and finish). I then saw ....... No texturing or carving #-o Now am i assuming correctly that a bead would be classed as texture and carving?

Beads are fine , NO PANIC :mrgreen:

 

[Hudson Carpentry]

Cool, thank you, ill get pics done and upload

 

[Blister]

Cool, thank you, ill get pics done and upload

Please read the rules

2011-competition-january-project-now-open-t47246.html

not till after 24th Jan please

 

[Hudson Carpentry]

Does that also mean in this thread for the critiques too?

Edit: It does, must read more before i get excited and just get on with things. #-o

 

[duncanh]

The Competition thread says 'Standard bowl. No texturing / piercing / coloring / carving / burning '.
Does this mean that the bowl has to be round or can it be a bowl inside a square blank?

Duncan

 

[Blister]

The Competition thread says 'Standard bowl. No texturing / piercing / coloring / carving / burning '.
Does this mean that the bowl has to be round or can it be a bowl inside a square blank?

Duncan

Hi duncan

A standard bowl is round , so round bowls only

we do have later in the year a anything goes bowl so square will be fine for that month :wink:

 

[SVB]

Hi,

I don't intend to criticize as I respect the time and effort + initiative gone in to organising this forum comp but are we getting a bit too restrictive here?

I (sort of) understand separating coloured / carved work into a future session but round only? Come on - let folks employ some creative input please! Whether it is round / square / triangular or eliptical it should not really matter. It should be over all visual appeal linked to a quality item that wins the day.

Just my 2 pence worth in the interests of debate rather than treturary!

BRgds
Simon

 

[Blister]

Hi,

I don't intend to criticize as I respect the time and effort + initiative gone in to organising this forum comp but are we getting a bit too restrictive here?

I (sort of) understand separating coloured / carved work into a future session but round only? Come on - let folks employ some creative input please! Whether it is round / square / triangular or eliptical it should not really matter. It should be over all visual appeal linked to a quality item that wins the day.

Just my 2 pence worth in the interests of debate rather than treturary!

BRgds
Simon

Hi Simon

The reason for a standard round bowl is as follows , Its a standard bowl quite straight forward :mrgreen: and we have a few novice / new turners taking part , I intended to give a balance of straight forward turning and creative turning , if you look further into the years projects you will see , Bowl / Platter's anything goes , So you can get your creative input going , this way we all have a chance , novice up to semi pro

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The Standard bowl January challenge remains

Here are the 12 monthly project list if you missed it :=


OK People

Here are the 12 projects

Please make a new item , NO previously made work to be entered

January

Standard bowl. No texturing / piercing / coloring,
Any wood type, any size
Emphasis on design, tool control and finish

February
A candlestick
Any wood type, any size, Emphasis on design, tool control and finish


March
A platter, No texturing / piercing / coloring,

April
A set of 4 eggcups, Emphasis on design, tool control and finish

May
Decorated Bowl, texturing / piercing / carving / coloring all allowed

June
A Box, with push fit lid, any wood type, any size, Emphasis on design, tool control and finish

July
A decorated platter, texturing / piercing / carving coloring all allowed

August
An item of jewelry, earrings, bracelet, necklace, ring

September
A Vase, Emphasis on design, tool control and finish

October
A toy, use your imagination with this one, hand held, push along etc

November
A Goblet, Emphasis on design, tool control and finish

December
A Snowman or Christmas tree, as festive as you like

This is a mixture of face plate / chuck / spindle work , easy to start with ( January ) becoming more difficult as the months pass , some are plain and let the wood / craftsmanship show through , some are artistic , lets your imagination design and handwork take precedence Hope you like them :mrgreen:

I was going to only let entrants know what the projected were on a monthly basis but decided to show all 12 so people can go on holiday and make thing when they have time rather than putting time restrictions in place


Hope this helps

Allen

 

[skeetoids]

Hi Alan,

I would just like to post in support of your rules and guidelines.

I think they are spot on and your reasoning to.

If anyone has a problem then your always willing to clarify and assist.

Plus, as it's the 1st month a lot of q&a is likely.

Well done.

Lee.

 

[Blister]

Hi Alan,

I would just like to post in support of your rules and guidelines.

I think they are spot on and your reasoning to.

If anyone has a problem then your always willing to clarify and assist.

Plus, as it's the 1st month a lot of q&a is likely.

Well done.

Lee.

Thank Lee :wink:

Now get off the computer , go down the workshop and get you entry made :mrgreen:

that's if you can get to it yet :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[TheTiddles]

Just checking, though I think I know the answer, using a metal-loaded epoxy to fill voids in a spalted material would be decoration wouldn't it?

cheers

Aidan