It's a Woodblokewoodgloat!

[woodbloke]

My mate James said that I could have a bit more of his oak and he delivered it tonight:

and although you can't see it 'cos of all the crud on it it happens to be air dried English Oak (around 4 or 5 years) quarter sawn \/ straight out of the middle of the tree...this is the worst side btw. It's around 2m long and is over 100mm thick. He also said in passing that he had some nice air dried English Ash, but wasn't sure if was any good as he thought is was a bit scabby, but he lobbed it in the back of his wagon and let me have it as well:

There are some huge lumps of it there, much of it is again quarter sawn. Scabby?...I think not!

And the price for all this luverly stuff?.....£100



Methinks I need a bigger bandsaw 8-[ - Rob

 

[CHJ]

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

 

[RogerS]

I'd send it back...it's full of splits :wink:

 

[studders]

And someones wee'd on it by the look of it. :?

 

[ondablade]

Nice bit of firewood!

To be a bit more serious about it WB. At over 100mm and air dried - i wonder what sort of moisture content it might be at? Will it need further drying for furniture use, or what do you have in mind?

I ask because i've been sniffing around a project that would require 4x4in oak or something similar, but have been struggling to find out if it can be dried at that thickness to something suitable for furniture use without splitting...

 

[woodbloke]

To be a bit more serious about it WB. At over 100mm and air dried - i wonder what sort of moisture content it might be at? Will it need further drying for furniture use, or what do you have in mind?

I guess it'll still be a little damp in the middle, but it's going to spend the next few years in my 'shop before I do anything with it. I'm going to give the Disston rip a little tickle with a three square file tonight and start to saw off the sap and then I'll probably saw into two large chunks down the split in the middle...at the moment it's just too heavy to do a lot with

Once I've got a new bandsaw sorted out, I'll probably convert the chunks into 25mm boards (or as close to) but it really depends on what I'm going to use it for...current thinking is p'raps a cabinet or two of some description, who knows? I've still got some plainer oak from the same tree so less conspicuous parts of a project could be done with that - Rob

 

[ondablade]

Ta Rob, that makes sense. I was hoping you might say you had a project in mind requiring the drying of the full thickness. It'd for example be interesting to see how a 4x4 behaved over time.

Slow and steady seems to be the key with heavy sections, but so far i've not found anybody who has done it. The commercial kiln drying guys are reputedly not interested, presumably because of this.

There's presumably a similar risk of splitting if heavy oak sections are dried and then put back out into use too????

Regardless of thickness the problem we've discussed before seems to be that getting down to say 8% moisture requires kiln drying - the physics mean air drying round here won't get much below about 12% except in a nice warm indoor space with dehumidification in Summer.

 

[RogerM]

Lovely stuff. Shame about the staggered split down the RHS, but still loads of usable timber there.

Methinks I need a bigger bandsaw - Rob

Rob - you know what you have to do. Go on - you know it makes sense! No point waiting for the VAT to go up.

 

[woodbloke]

Rob - you know what you have to do. Go on - you know it makes sense! No point waiting for the VAT to go up.

Alas Rog, fundage is depleted at the moment, but plans are afoot :wink: for Jan 12. I took off one side of the sap wood tonight with my Disston rip...took around half and hour, but very hard going. The other side will get done tomorrow and then I'll saw it half down the middle (around the area of the split) to give two more manageable lumps - Rob

 

[mtt.tr]

Your workshop looks nice we need a tour

 

[big soft moose]

Rob - you know what you have to do. Go on - you know it makes sense! No point waiting for the VAT to go up.

Alas Rog, fundage is depleted at the moment, but plans are afoot :wink: for Jan 12. I took off one side of the sap wood tonight with my Disston rip...took around half and hour, but very hard going. The other side will get done tomorrow and then I'll saw it half down the middle (around the area of the split) to give two more manageable lumps - Rob

there are some nice wadkin bzb s on ebay :lol:

 

[jimi43]

Your workshop looks nice we need a tour

Yup! It is WAY too tidy...you'll have us thinking you are just a collector next!

:wink:

Jim

 

[mtt.tr]

Your workshop looks nice we need a tour

Yup! It is WAY too tidy...you'll have us thinking you are just a collector next!

:wink:

Jim

i lol'd :lol:

 

[Mike.C]

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

He's a flash git Chas, maybe you should have ignored his email re his password. And to think he never even answered my email :evil:

Cheers

Mike

 

[woodbloke]

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

He's a flash git Chas, maybe you should have ignored his email re his password. And to think he never even answered my email :evil:

Cheers

Mike

Mike, much apologies. Many thanks to you, Chas (and Philly btw) for recent help in changing over ISP's.

If the general consensus is that I'm a 'flash git' perhaps my 40 years worth of woodworking experience might be more valued elsewhere? - Rob :? :?

 

[Mike.C]

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

He's a flash git Chas, maybe you should have ignored his email re his password. And to think he never even answered my email :evil:

Cheers

Mike

Mike, much apologies. Many thanks to you, Chas (and Philly btw) for recent help in changing over ISP's.

If the general consensus is that I'm a 'flash git' perhaps my 40 years worth of woodworking experience might be more valued elsewhere? - Rob :? :?

Hi Rob, No mate you have got me all wrong. May I drop dead if I meant anything else but having a bit of fun. I'm originally from London and to me flash git means I am a bit envious.

I maybe wrong (this old git's brain it not what it used to be) but as far as remember we have never had a problem, and your gloat of some lovely timber certainly would not cause one now. I am pleased for you.

I hope that this clears up the problem. And as far as your experience being valued elsewhere, it is also valued here.

Cheers

Mike

 

[woodbloke]

Mike - no worries, the nuances of t'interweb - Rob

 

[jimi43]

Indeed Rob...

It's just because you are so very friendly that we all feel we can josh with you without offending you....I realy hope you know that mate!

Jim

 

[woodbloke]

Three nights of serious hand sawing with the Disston:

have got this lump into two more manageable pieces...sap has been removed and then it's been sawn down the middle (which took around 90 minutes) The thickest part of it was 120mm, not 100 as previously stated. Apologies :lol:...I know how Popeye's right arm feels now but I didn't have me spinach for tea - Rob

 

[big soft moose]

Do you not own a bandsaw rob - or are you just a secret masochist :lol: