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Its a mess if you dont have the resources to be able to pay.
but is it not the case that in the Uk if you have nothing then you can claim everything, but if you have a little something then you get nowt. What about this, if you get your council tax paid then you can still claim the £150 government rebate, why ?
 
Yes. If they have money to pay.
If they don't the social worker has to find that support money to help funding and a care home that will accept the amounts offered bearing in mind pensions etc are included in the calculations.
This is one of the time consuming reasons for bed blocking.
If the person is to be sent home a home assesment us needed and a team put in place if there is no one to help at home again bed blocking untill all this is agreed.

In Scotland its different than England from what I can see.

Its a mess if you dont have the resources to be able to pay.
The way MDT is supposed to work (and clearly doesn't in my recent experience) is that the discharge assessment starts on the first day of hospitalisation. It should then be periodically reassessed as treatment progresses and finalised on the lead up to discharge. This model sounds perfect in principle, however lots of barriers get in the way e.g. staff shortages, winter pressures, the latest change initiatives from NHS England or local mandates and now covid.
 
but is it not the case that in the Uk if you have nothing then you can claim everything, but if you have a little something then you get nowt. What about this, if you get your council tax paid then you can still claim the £150 government rebate, why ?

In our town we have a food bank.
A couple of months ago my wife earwigged two women talking outside as she waited for a friend.
One said," I thought you were down here a few days ago?"
The other woman replied,"I was, but I gave all my allowance to the dog because I had no food for him, so Ive come back to get some food for me"
As they both stood there smoking silk cut at 14 quid a packet.

Another quandary?
 
From experience a more common reason for bed blocking isn't that people are waiting to go into homes, but that they're waiting to GO home, and their homes for one reason or another aren't deemed suitable. I was in hospital for three months and for last month the other three in a small ward of four were there solely because their homes needed modification before they were allowed home. Had I not desperately wanted to get home they could have kept me there for another eight months.
This was a small hospital where we were sent after major operations in the main hospital, and our bed blocking was stopping others following us (I spent an unnecessary week in the main hospital as someone couldn't leave the other hospital on time) and them in turn being the main cause of ambulances being held up because of lack of beds. I read in the local press of a paramedic spending a whole shift in his ambulance outside the hospital.
 
In our town we have a food bank.
A couple of months ago my wife earwigged two women talking outside as she waited for a friend.
One said," I thought you were down here a few days ago?"
The other woman replied,"I was, but I gave all my allowance to the dog because I had no food for him, so Ive come back to get some food for me"
As they both stood there smoking silk cut at 14 quid a packet.

Another quandary?
I had to lookup the cost of a packet and was stunned to see that silk cut do indeed cost over £14 a pack of 20 . Even if you keep it to 20 a day that's £100 per week :oops:
 
It is easy to assert that problems in the NHS and social care could all be solved with more funding, but many of the problems could have been addressed long ago had the political will existed so to do:
  • the disconnect between NHS and social care has been evident for decades. Compartmentalising budgets and management means that priorities and actions are often discordant
  • the ambulance response crisis arises as they are unable to transfer patients on arrival to A&E, but wait - sometimes for hours. Re-allocation of resources in the hospital could alleviate the problem - albeit at the expense of some other service. Need a clear view of priorities.
  • funding for care of the elderly is a continuing mess. Splitting health care (free) from social care (effectively means tested) is questionable. Proposals to sustainably fund long term elderly care - insurance, tax, means testing etc - have created noise not solutions.
The system may need more public funding - but we should fix the system flaws before writing out the cheques.

BTW - I'm glad I have up smoking 20 years ago - health aside, saving comfortably pay for a couple of nice holidays a year.
 
I had to lookup the cost of a packet and was stunned to see that silk cut do indeed cost over £14 a pack of 20 . Even if you keep it to 20 a day that's £100 per week :oops:

I gave up smoking 17 years ago, at the time i was a 40 a day roll up man. Today the cost of my habit would be the equivalent of a mortgage.
No wonder people have to resort to food banks if they smoke.
 
I hope nobody minds and I apologise for the long read, but this might be the post to share what has very recently happened to me and a reminder that not everything goes the way we plan it. At the beginning of the year, I started contributing to D_W’s post ‘Anyone Want to do a Weight Loss Challenge’ I had put on quite a bit of weight during 2021 and stopped running in the September of the same year. I stopped drinking beer which was my main source of empty calories and started running. By mid-May I ran a 10K race which was my best time for four years. One week later we were camping in Lincolnshire where I did another couple of 10K leisure runs. The day after my last run while visiting Boston I suddenly, completely lost my appetite. This was to last all week until the following weekend when we were camping in Cheshire that I knew I needed to see a GP. I made an appointment on a call-back system and got a reply within thirty minutes asking me to go to the surgery the next day. We de-camped, got home and the following day (Tuesday) I saw the GP. By this time, I was jaundiced, my whole body itched and my poo and wee had changed significantly. She sent me to the hospital where someone would be waiting for me. I didn’t make it back out of that hospital until the following Tuesday.

The original thought was that I had a blockage in my gall bladder which could be caused by several things. They then concluded that I had a tumour on my pancreas, and I needed specialist help. My CT and MRI scans were sent to the Queen Elizabeth hospital, Birmingham. They contacted me the following Wednesday asking my wife and I to come to a meeting Friday to meet the specialist nurse who would introduce us to a surgeon, oncologist and anaesthetist as well as to have several tests and samples taken. They explained exactly what was going to happen if I agree to come in Sunday evening and have a D.D.D.P. operation on Monday. This is a variation of a Whipple operation to remove the cancerous head area of the pancreas. This is called Fast Tracking and is offered to those that meet an age, health and fitness level.

It is a six-hour operation and very obtrusive. Organs must be cut through to get to the pancreas then re-attached afterwards. But the surprising thing to me was that two days later, I’m out of my bed, the following day I’m walking short distances around the ward. By the following Monday I was home.

So, it’s four weeks and two days later. I get short of breath and can only eat small meals at one sitting. I can now walk up to 3km but do need two or three naps throughout the day. It will be eight weeks before I start the full-dose chemotherapy sessions then hopefully I will be cancer free. The surgeon has told me that if I don’t do anything silly, I should be running by January.

This is not a wake-up call for me. I had that when my father died when I was 25. He retired on his 65th birthday in the October then suddenly died the following January. From then on, I changed my lifestyle and made sure my wife and I got to retire early. I retired at 55 my wife at 59. Most of my working life has involved the investigations of sudden and suspicious deaths. This has made me aware something as simple as getting out of this chair, I could trip over the doorway threshold to the garden and land head-butting the patio killing me. Hopefully, instantly. Or the doorbell goes, and I could be met by a nutter with an axe. Probably a blunt one if he’s not read any a Jacob’s posts.

So, when this is all over. If my health does return to what it was. There will be little if any change to our lives. We will still travel, camp, hike, meet up with many friends we’ve made over the years just like we always have. I will still run the hills and countryside plus the cities that we travel to. We did put-by to have two small pensions which we still spend like there is tomorrow. When I do pop my clogs, my wife will probably be surprised that she is getting a better price for my tools second hand than I said I paid for them new.

As for the weight loss challenge. I’ve lost 17kg but I would not advise anyone should take my route. Stick to diet and exercise.

Gary

Yikes thought I hadn't seen you around here....
Glad your on the mend! 👍👍👍
 
Lymes disease is a thing in the U.K..
Not too common but on the rise I think.
Initial symptom is a bullseye 🎯 looking bite. After that it gets confused with flu.

There have been many cases where it has gone undiagnosed for many months.
There is a specific test for it and AIUI it's easy to treat.

A big problem with the health service in the U.K. is the time it takes to get a proper diagnosis for your illness.

My wife was fobbed off with painkillers and other pills by GP when she had a really bad back. Sad to say that we eventually went private. Got a scan and proper diagnosis within days rather than months.
Don't know if the lasting damage could have been avoided.

I would have more radiographers to maximise the use of CT and MRI scanners and also buy more scanners and train more staff.

It has a poor history of being diagnosed here, too. It presents similar to flu, but the variant going around here causes a fever and enlarged lymph nodes several days to a week after introduction. The spot from it is light pink and distant from the bite area (I'm sure there could be more spots or none). the pediatrician told my wife that if they wait to treat it until they have a positive test it can be too late, or it may never show on teh assay at all. I have no idea what the test is, but she was sure it's lyme - another benefit of taking the kid to a pediatrician instead of an adult doc - the kids are the ones in the fences and hedges rubbing everything that the deer touch here.

Neighbors coworker ignored the signs and was dead of lyme in less than a year - organ failure. At least that's what the guy claimed, that the symptoms were only recent.

This state has the unwanted achievement of having more cases than anywhere in the US. I doubt all of them are reported to the CDC, so the number is probably low here:
https://www.phillyvoice.com/pennsylvania-ticks-lyme-disease-2022/
The deer are thick as thieves here thriving in the burbs on lack of hunting and huge browsing choices of shrubs and flowers. I've long been an advocate of giving spears to the neighborhood because they are tame enough to be gotten with them. they can be entertaining if you dont' get between them and a fawn, but the ticks aren't that entertaining.
 
Sell them sooner than you think you need to unless you're using them. If you're using them to the last day, find someone who is willing to help your daughter unload them and don't get too concerned about whether she gets every penny.

i've run into two people in the last couple of months who have a whole pile of wood and tools and sudden health turns give them a short lifetime and no energy to sell either. Even in my mid 40s, i'm realizing that I shouldn't be holding on to stuff I'm not using and I've unloaded a whole bunch in the last year but twice as far again beyond that to go.
Oh dear, I've missed the mark by 20+ years...:eek:
TBH I plan to continue woodworking and other workshop activities till I drop not only because it's what keeps me relatively fit and active but because I enjoy it and get immense pleasure throwing myself into whatever new project and occasional reading aside I've never been a sit down and vegetate kinda guy (read 'old man').
I hope your son recovers quickly and has no lasting side effects from what can sometimes be a debilitating infection
 
From experience a more common reason for bed blocking isn't that people are waiting to go into homes, but that they're waiting to GO home, and their homes for one reason or another aren't deemed suitable. I was in hospital for three months and for last month the other three in a small ward of four were there solely because their homes needed modification before they were allowed home. Had I not desperately wanted to get home they could have kept me there for another eight months.
This was a small hospital where we were sent after major operations in the main hospital, and our bed blocking was stopping others following us (I spent an unnecessary week in the main hospital as someone couldn't leave the other hospital on time) and them in turn being the main cause of ambulances being held up because of lack of beds. I read in the local press of a paramedic spending a whole shift in his ambulance outside the hospital.

From my experience with my dad, the bed blocking is because people are waiting to be moved on to the next stage of medical care - be this going home, going to a temporary assessment care home to decide the next steps, being sent to a rehabilitation hospital because they are too well to be in hospital but not well enough to go home or, simply, because there is no where, of any description, to take them. We've been in one or other of these scenarios at least three times in the past twelve months with dad.

As to paramedics being on their ambulance for the whole shift - in the south west, this has become routine. I've spent much of a paramedics shift sat in the ambulance with my dad, with two paramedics, just waiting. I've even experienced a changeover in shift - the ambulance which took dad to the hospital car park came from a different health care district and had to return there at the end of the shift. The paramedics moved my dad, his possessions and the trolley on which he was lying from one ambulance to another and the whole waiting game began again until a trolley slot became available in A+E. He then had to wait on a trolley for 24 hours (last time). On a previous occasion he had to wait 36 hours!

My dad is still in the hospital, a continuation of the car park wait that I explained above, and on the various visits I have made to see him pass that ambulance car park. Fifteen ambulances waiting one time, seventeen another and twenty three on another occasion.

Even fifteen ambulances, that's thirty paramedic professionals who are taken out of the community and unable to help in field emergencies.

The whole system is a mess and I feel very sorry for the paramedics. So many of them get a hard time when they arrive six, maybe ten hours after a relative initiates a call to 999. It simply isn't their fault. I wont give them a hard time personally because I appreciate the difficulties that they are facing and the fact that they appear to be caught between a rock and a hard place.

My mum died just under three years ago. She fell and had a bleed. My dad sat with her on the floor waiting for an ambulance to arrive. It took six hours. He was pleading with them by the end. They were both 88 at the time. She died three days later in hospital with us by her side. I asked for a formal explanation of why the ambulance took so long. I got a very detailed written explanation. Ambulances and beds were under pressure even then.

Is the situation particular to my dad's local university hospital? I understand not - it became acute in Cornwall first, then Plymouth, then Torbay and now Exeter. Where we used to live in Surrey, although slightly better, it was still pretty dire.

The whole system is broken and needs fixing - and I suspect via the private purse if I am honest.
 
From my experience with my dad, the bed blocking is because people are waiting to be moved on to the next stage of medical care - be this going home, going to a temporary assessment care home to decide the next steps, being sent to a rehabilitation hospital because they are too well to be in hospital but not well enough to go home or, simply, because there is no where, of any description, to take them...

My point exactly. The three chaps I was in with for the last month could have been dealt with by district nurses at home. The whole system is choked, not just the major hospitals we see queues of ambulances filmed out side.

Cornwall? The population has nearly doubled since 1971. Hospitals have been enlarged, but have we any new ones? Of course not. Treliske is a nightmare despite wonderful people doing their best. More chiefs than indians.
 
Where has this post gone ?
Thought it was about what people may think of you once you are gone.
The harsh reality is that what people think of you - is their business, not yours.
It's their problem, not yours.
Having died, and been revived - with some interesting memories ( which I do not talk about ) - suggest you don't waste your time here with this introspective angst.
 
As they both stood there smoking silk cut at 14 quid a packet.
[Expletive deleted!] Is that right? 14 quid a packet? I have never smoked so I have no idea how much **** cost, but 14 quid a packet is way more than I would have guessed. Maybe I would not be very good on "The price is right".
 
Sounds like you ought to be my older brother:D
I'm 77, slow heart rate, don't run but cycle everywhere, don't climb mountains but 'go bush' for extended periods, did a lot of single-handed ocean sailing in the 60's - 70's, kayaked a lot of the NZ coastline, lakes etc.
The only thing I disagree on, you're not the richest man in the world - I am.
You must be a member of WEF then!
 
Actually there are many complex reasons for bed blocking and it is seldom a lack of space in homes. I had a detailed analysis undertaken at one health authority which concluded that the reasons were often to do with who pays, the NHS or the Council. This was closely followed by poor post-discharge care planning, inadequate pharmacy support at weekends, no patient transport at weekends and believe it or not families that refuse to accept the, often elderly, relative back home.
We have to remember the Laws/Osborn(Lib Dem/Con) austerity cuts took money way from the NHS and Local authority adult care services. Places in care home and hospital were removed. We are no seeing the full impact of these cuts. We were out of home for 8 months due to flooding when the EA budget for river dredging was cut.
 
I had to lookup the cost of a packet and was stunned to see that silk cut do indeed cost over £14 a pack of 20 . Even if you keep it to 20 a day that's £100 per week
So by having a healthy lifestyle and not smoking then on the basis that many smokers will consume more than twenty a day we can assume they spend £600 a month at least. So buying the odd expensive tool on a whim is just a reward paid for by not smoking and we have something to show for it rather than coughing up bit's of our lungs.

Cornwall? The population has nearly doubled since 1971.
Population increase has not been accounted for in so many ways, the only real winners out of this have been the property developers who mostly build utter shieete and make huge profits but do not contribute to local services such as hospitals, doctors, utilities and local services. It is getting worse because they can continue to build shieete that is not fit for future housing needs because the government has not seen fit to update the building standards to force them to make houses that are ultra insulated that would reduce future energy needs and cost to the owners. Population increase should have resulted in a proportional increase in government funding for many sectors, are there enough fire engines, ambulance and police for example but no, they take the increase in income but waste it elsewhere.

If only the people who make the decisions and run / try to run the country actually thought about what people will remember them as being, or what history will say about them when they are long gone.
 
So by having a healthy lifestyle and not smoking then on the basis that many smokers will consume more than twenty a day we can assume they spend £600 a month at least. So buying the odd expensive tool on a whim is just a reward paid for by not smoking and we have something to show for it rather than coughing up bit's of our lungs.
Absolutely 😁
 

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