Hardpoint Saws Any good for ripping

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nellist

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The only Hardpoint saws I can find are for general purpose work,I've never seen any designed for Ripping does anyone know if any are available.
 
What will you be using it for? Dovetails?
 
I think you'll find that it cuts really slow - it will have a crosscut configuration on the teeth.

I just got an old Disston rip saw off the bay for £11 - 4tpi. In great nick. Just had to give it a light sharpen and off we go.

Cheers

Karl
 
If there are any hardpoint saws for ripping, I haven't seen them.
They are usually way too short and too many teeth and not the right geometry. A good ripsaw will be about 28" long and have 5 or less teeth per inch. Ripping is hard work with any hand saw.
 
nellist":i2whsuin said:
The only Hardpoint saws I can find are for general purpose work,I've never seen any designed for Ripping does anyone know if any are available.

Hardpoint saws are cheap get-you-bys, used by people who'd like to use a powertool, but don't have one available.

As such, there does not exist a wide range of hard point saws, optimised to make best use of hand power.

BugBear
 
Thanks guys Looks like I'll have to save up for a traditional saw or watch e-bay for second hand Disstons.
 
nellist":3qbt5grq said:
Thanks guys Looks like I'll have to save up for a traditional saw or watch e-bay for second hand Disstons.

I would worry about ebay for saws. In particular missing/bad teeth and kinks are hard to spot, and harder to fix.

Saws are cheap at car boot sales. Just look at the handles to find older ones (the handles have much softer edges, and nicer, fancier carving, very easy to spot).

Then check the blade.

BugBear
 
I use hardpoint saws all the time for ripping at work.I use Irwin ones.They are ok in 1" pine but wouldn't want to cut anything thicker/harder with them.
 
Called in at my local Wickes today and I noticed they did a hardpoint saw specifically for ripping it's their own brand but dont know how good it is
Phil
 
I thought i had seen rip saws in wickes but wasn't sure if i was right so didn't say.I wasn't imagining it then.
 
You could always make one of these:

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Jr used a piece of an old hand saw blade for this one. IIRC it has 4 tpi. If I had to do much ripping this is the way I would go. He can get as much as 3" per stroke in 3/4 oak.
 
You can get rip blades for frame saws with hardened teeth, turned at 90deg to the frame you should be OK so long as you don't need to rip more than 6" or so wide.

Failing that, start digging and use one of these :wink:

Jason
 
Interesting indeed.I might give one a punt for a fiver.Often need to hand rip stuff when it's not possible to use power tools indoors and it's too much bother to keep running in and out the house.
 
nellist":1gcozww3 said:
Thanks guys Looks like I'll have to save up for a traditional saw or watch e-bay for second hand Disstons.

Worth keeping your eyes open at boot sales as well. I picked up a 6tpi Disston last weekend for £1 in good nick. Very slight rust spots at one end and the medallion is missing otherwise fine. Sharp as well (at least by my standards :lol: )

Pete
 
I believe there are Japenese saw that are relatively inexpensive, with hardened teeth that are designed specifically for ripping. In fact, Ryoba saws have one side specifically for Crosscutting and the other for rip.

Here is Lee Valleys version

http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx ... at=1,42884

This might be an idea for you.

Pedro

Edit to add.Hmm. I guess I did something wrong as my link has been impregnated with ***REPORT TO MODERATOR***REPORT TO MODERATOR***. I will start worrying if I hear helicopters hovering over the building.
 
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