Guide price for bespoke timber greenhouse.

[andybiggsy]

Would someone be able to give me a guide price for what I should be paying for the following timber framed t shaped softwood greenhouse please?

I will be making the staging so price for just greenhouse.

See image attached.

Dimensions would be:

The approx dimensions would need to be (including dwarf wall):

greenhouse width: 12ft
total depth: 10ft (8ft greenhouse and 2ft porch)
side gable: 8ft wide
porch width: 6ft
total height: 8ft
Door width as wide as possible, height to suit.

Ideally 4 openers for ventilation.

If anyone knows anyone near Stoke, e.g. staffs, cheshire, derbyshire etc who could help please feel free to recommend them.

Thanks in advance.

Andy

 

[woodfarmer]

That is quite a complicated although pretty shape, for which tempered glass might be very difficult.
Two years ago I paid £3K for a 6 x 4 metre simple aluminium greenhouse. Just the bits delivered, had to make my own base and erect it.

I assume you chose that shape, because you want that shape. If it was a utilitarian reason that you just wanted a separate area, it would probably be cheaper and easier to have a bigger square/oblong one and make an internal partition.

Probably no help at all

 

[andybiggsy]

Hi there, thanks for the reply. I have seen this exact complete greenhouse (excluding base) for £3,500 but I cant help looking at it and seeing about 1000 worth of softwood.

Just wondering if I should be approaching a joiner and expecting to pay a lot less.

 

[bugbear]

Hi there, thanks for the reply. I have seen this exact complete greenhouse (excluding base) for £3,500 but I cant help looking at it and seeing about 1000 worth of softwood.

Just wondering if I should be approaching a joiner and expecting to pay a lot less.

The wood ain't the cost!

BugBear

 

[andybiggsy]

ok is £3,500 a good price for this including glass and guttering etc?

Thanks

Andy

 

[Rhossydd]

Softwood for a greenhouse ? That might(will) not last too long.

A more common and more durable timber would be Western Red Cedar for greenhouse construction. You might consider this a 'softwood', but it's price puts it into the same sort of class as hardwood.

Wooden greenhouses look lovely when new, but requite a lot more maintenance than a more conventional aluminium one in the long term.

 

[marcros]

i would also consider accoya- it seems to have had favourable reports recently for this type of application, windos, doors, orangeries etc.

 

[RobinBHM]

I've priced greenhouses before and they work out significantly more expensive than an off the shelf product. For that reason I never quote for them now unless they are a classic Victorian style for a listed property.

The largest part of the cost of a bespoke product from a joiner is the labour not the materials.

 

[marcros]

I've priced greenhouses before and they work out significantly more expensive than an off the shelf product. For that reason I never quote for them now unless they are a classic Victorian style for a listed property.

The largest part of the cost of a bespoke product from a joiner is the labour not the materials.

Are they typically stick built or made offsite from panels and the panels joined together?

 

[MickCheese]

I cannot help with the price, sorry, but I really like the shape and I think would look wonderful in oak.

I wonder how much it would cost in Oak?

Mick

 

[RobinBHM]

A joinery built greenhouse would be built as frames in the workshop, trial assembled then numbered for re-assembly on site.

The problem is that most joinery works will have plenty of tooling and standard setups for making windows and doors for double glazing or heritage single / slimlite glazing but greenhouses are different. They are predominently constructed with direct glazed frames with a simple rebate.

Marston and Langinger used to make stunning timber greenhouses, prices from around £15k.

 

[andybiggsy]

thanks for all the advice guys. I was told that if you get a slow grown imported softwood from scandinavia or siberia that it is almost comparable to hardwood in durability, especially if treated and painted well.

would that sound about right?

 

[bugbear]

thanks for all the advice guys. I was told that if you get a slow grown imported softwood from scandinavia or siberia that it is almost comparable to hardwood in durability, especially if treated and painted well.

would that sound about right?

comparable in price too

BugBear

 

[andybiggsy]

ah right i see. so final question.......

value for money and durability, what is the best wood to use?

 

[woodfarmer]

The one shown seems to be made using tanalised timber. this is sort of pressure creosoted. so will last longer than untreated softwood.

The problem is it will almost certainly have to be constructed without using safety glass.

 

[andybiggsy]

luckily it comes with 4mm Toughened Glazing - Safe, Strong and Family Friendly

 

[bugbear]

Possibly give a specialist company a bell, if only for a benchmark quote?

Googling threw up these:

http://www.whitecottage.co.uk/
http://www.wilshiregreenhouses.co.uk/

(I'm guessing you already found Swallow)

BugBear

 

[andybiggsy]

thanks never seen these wilshire guys, will try them.

thanks

 

[Benchwayze]

Ref the shape... Andy just wants a nice 'man-cave', with windows.

Are you using pressure treated timbers?

 

[woodfarmer]

luckily it comes with 4mm Toughened Glazing - Safe, Strong and Family Friendly

In which case the one shown is unlikely to be a one off as toughened glass can't be cut after toughening. (I think). So as a manufactured item not fair to cost it against and artisan made bespoke one off.