global warming again

[Digit]

Yesss, got that BSM. Electricity demand is, so I'm told, expected to rise in the future, so there would still have to be an increase in gas/oil/coal/ nuclear stations to cope, and the 17 mill is full output so other capacity has to be available to cover less than full out put.
So will we see less gas/coal/oil imported?
Note that this proposal isn't instead of the planned nuclear and other stations, it's in addition.

Roy.

 

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[Digit]

Like what you were saying about the BBC earlier.
According to a government report, by 2010 the UK will be importing 50 per cent of its gas requirements, and by 2020 80 percent.
Doesn't look as though 'yes' is too correct.

Roy.

 

[wobblycogs]

I know quite a few people who work in the insurance world all of whom earn very good money. Some of them are pretty talented and some of them work pretty hard but not one of them is what I would call special and the work they do is no more difficult or complex than mine.

Most of them got to where they are through a combination of things including hard work, exploiting connections and good old fashioned luck. What is striking though is not one of them comes from what would be called a poor background - everyone without fail has parents that are at least moderately successful. I'm sure that everyone can point to someone that has "made it good" from humble beginnings but it's clear, to me at least, that it is much harder if you start at the bottom.

I would like to think that the rich pay more tax to help even society out so that everyone starts out with at least a fighting chance of becoming successful. I think I would rather see a rich person complain about tax than a poor person fail to achieve their potential.

 

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[Digit]

Assuming you know, of course...

Is there any chance of you learning to be polite?

Roy.

 

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[Digit]

Start what?
The thread was on global warming, I've stuck to it.
As for ignorance, at least I know what blither means.

Roy.

 

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[Digit]

Look it up.

Roy.

 

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[Digit]

Naturally! But meanwhile, back on the Global warming front.
It would seem that our dependence of imported gas will get worse rather than better in the future.

BTW. Collins for you, you can argue with them instead of me for a change..

blithering [ˈblɪðərɪng]
adj
1. talking foolishly; jabbering
2. Informal stupid; foolish you blithering silly person
[variant of blather + -ing2]

Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged 6th Edition 2003. © William Collins Sons & Co. Ltd 1979, 1986 © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003

Roy.

 

[RogerS]

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also i'd note that i used to work at a golf club and we got loads of well of members (may of whom were ceos etc) who would regularly be on the course by two or three in the afternoon.
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But you're making a value judgement. Unless you follow said individuals for 24/7 for a couple of weeks then you can't tell what their work involvement is or what their working hours are. For all you know they have just got up after an all-night session conference calling with the US and Far East. Even if they haven't, many people at this level are effectively oncall/involved with work 24/7 so who's to deny them a bit of R&R.

 

[devonwoody]

Ladies and gentlemen.

Could someone please advise me on the opening thread I posted,

I still think that IF we have used the first 50% of fossil fuels and have global warming in progress (and the planet hasnt been able to resolve ) using the last 50% (over whatever time period) of fossil fuels in the future must surely mean it is going to happen anyway.

 

[Kalimna]

As I think somebody else replied earlier on (and I kik myself for getting drawn in once more, tho I should know better), it's not the total amount, its the rate that is important. And the planet's ability to absorb the CO2 produced.

Think of a petrol engined car (please don't go off on another 'cars kill the planet/universe/multiverse/tax haven/past/present/future/auntie Williaminas cat') - if it burned a full tank all at once, it wouldn't go very far, and would probably just blow up. If, however, the fuel is drip fed in a controlled fashion, then useful energy is harnessed, even tho the total amount remains the same.

Not a spectacularly coherent analogy, but you should get the drift of the answer to you own question.

Anyway, all the CO2 produced initially came from plants, so we're merely returning things to initial conditionss

Adam

 

[devonwoody]

Thanks Kalimna.

So why hasn't the planet absorbed all the emissions so far.

And how does it absorb the next 50% (or whatever), because the next 50% will get used. Perhaps over a longer timespan if a usage system is sorted out globally.

200 years of industrial fossil fuels so far, 400 or 600 more years it is still there and the present rate of absorption cannot cope can it cope with the longer timespan?

 

[jlawrence]

as has been said, it is the rate of absortion that matters. all the sh1te in the papers about producing co2 is cr4p. we ain't producing (ie making ) anything new, we're releasing it. the problem is that we're releasing it faster than things can absorb it.
I've not seen anything that discusses what the impact of fosil fuels running out will be on the rate of co2 release.

 

[jlawrence]

wrt the sub thread on success, I think wobblycogs has a good point. Success tends to breed success, I think a lot of it has to do with expectations and belief that are imparted by the parents. The idea that if you want to achieve it you can isn't something that the 'poor' often pass on to their kids.
The successful people who should really be looked up to are those that come initially from the 'ppor' end of society because they've really done something special to break out of that situation.