Gatwick Airport vs Oslo Airport

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RogerS

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How they do it at Gatwick...

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How they do it at Oslo

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You can read more detail on how they can clear their runways within an hour and then maintain it free of snow every fifteen minutes here

It's not rocket science. It's called not putting all the money into crap shopping malls 'to enhance your travel experience'. Bulls**t. Now if our Transport Minister was worth his salt ....
 
I go out from OSL 20 times or so a year. Usually without troubles in the winter as well. Same amount of rubbish shopping centers though...

The thing to remember is that we have the snow every winter and thus have to spend the money wether we want to or not. I can assure you, we had your climate, it would be the same here.
 
Its the same with woodworking Roger, would you buy a specific new machine or tooling for each process even though you may not use it again for 5years or make do with what you have and would your clients be happy to pay for the cost of all this extra equipment? I think not.

Jason
 
The comparison between Gatwick and Oslo is valid. To say otherwise is to lump Gatwick in the same category as our UK local authorities, Highways Agency etc. For them, it is quite reasonable to argue that it would cost too much and not be cost-effective to have the plant on hand to keep our roads clear. Particularly as there are thousands and thousands of miles of motorway, roads and lanes. Also, their funding comes from public funds.

Gatwick on the other hand has significantly less in terms of real-estate to keep clear of snow. Gatwick's prime objective is to let aircraft land and take-off safely. Not shopping malls and the 'retail experience'. They are privately owned and can take a view - profits for shareholders or invest in the infrastructure and get more/better snow clearing equipment.

I would be very interested to have a comparison between the numbers, types, age, efficiency etc of snow clearing equipment between Oslo and the UK's second largest airport. Or even between Gatwick and smaller Scandinavian airports.

The fact that the new chairman Gatwick Airport Ltd (GAL), Sir David Rowlands, was a former Permanent Secretary at the Department for Transport (DfT) has nothing to do with the current Transport Ministers' stance of 'do nothing', of course.

Even if you take a much tinier airport in Finland, Rovaniemi, smaller place, one runway instead of three. They don't have the budget that Helsinki does, but did you ever hear of the Santa charters in December all being diverted away because of snow ?

I don't buy your argument, Jason, for two reasons. Gatwick is providing a public service. Whether or not they should ever have been sold off is a moot point and another topic for discussion perhaps. I have plenty of woodworking kit that I bought and rarely use but when I do, it's because it's the best thing to use at the time. My clients didn't pay. I did because I believed in the investment. Clearly Gatwick do not.
 
I would be very interested to have a comparison between the numbers, types, age, efficiency etc of snow clearing equipment between Oslo and the UK's second largest airport. Or even between Gatwick and smaller Scandinavian airports.

I would be more interested in the average yearly snowfall, I'd hazard a guess that Oslo expects a bit more than Gatwick.

And whats the point in keeping the airport open if the road and rail networks can't get people to & from the airport anyway

Jason

PS so why don't you have a tennonor, wide drum sander, full spray boothe, 4 sided planer as they would all be better than what you already have. We all have to draw the line somewhere
 
jasonB":1afgz2mb said:
I would be very interested to have a comparison between the numbers, types, age, efficiency etc of snow clearing equipment between Oslo and the UK's second largest airport. Or even between Gatwick and smaller Scandinavian airports.

I would be more interested in the average yearly snowfall, I'd hazard a guess that Oslo expects a bit more than Gatwick.

And whats the point in keeping the airport open if the road and rail networks can't get people to & from the airport anyway

That, I accept, is a good point.

jasonB":1afgz2mb said:
PS so why don't you have a tennonor, wide drum sander, full spray boothe, 4 sided planer as they would all be better than what you already have. We all have to draw the line somewhere

The absence of any of the above doesn't stop me from doing woodwork. The absence of adequate snow clearing equipment does....flying, that is...not woodworking :wink:
 
RogerS":1jyo259r said:
jasonB":1jyo259r said:
I would be very interested to have a comparison between the numbers, types, age, efficiency etc of snow clearing equipment between Oslo and the UK's second largest airport. Or even between Gatwick and smaller Scandinavian airports.

I would be more interested in the average yearly snowfall, I'd hazard a guess that Oslo expects a bit more than Gatwick.

And whats the point in keeping the airport open if the road and rail networks can't get people to & from the airport anyway

That, I accept, is a good point and one could argue that perhaps more effort could have been made to keep the Gatwick Express open. Ah, I was forgetting again. Private enterprise. Shaerholder profits...Gawd, I'm starting to sound like Jacob :D

jasonB":1jyo259r said:
PS so why don't you have a tennonor, wide drum sander, full spray boothe, 4 sided planer as they would all be better than what you already have. We all have to draw the line somewhere
The absence of any of the above doesn't stop me from doing woodwork. The absence of adequate snow clearing equipment does....flying, that is...not woodworking :wink:[/quote]
 
Henning":1x6wm58g said:
I go out from OSL 20 times or so a year. Usually without troubles in the winter as well. Same amount of rubbish shopping centers though...

The thing to remember is that we have the snow every winter and thus have to spend the money wether we want to or not. I can assure you, we had your climate, it would be the same here.
I agree, we simply don't get the snow often or deep enough to warrant the expense - Rob
 
Around here not even the principle road into the village gets completely gritted. The village council sends out 2 blokes in a van and they shovel grit onto the road but only the bends and junctions , the straight bits are left alone. Seems to work through as there were no accidents that I could see.

Andy
 
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