Festool TS55 plunge cuts vs. advertsing

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YorkshireMartin

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Hi all.

I bought the TS55 primarily as an alternative to a standard circular saw, mostly for the added accuracy of the rail guide.

When I was watching the reviews, I noticed several people recommend it for cutting out patterns in flooring, making plunge cuts into virtually everything.

After looking at it today, I can't see how it can possibly do whats its advertised to do.

If you took a ts55 (or any other small diameter bladed circular saw) to some hardwood flooring, say, 20mm, to cut out a square for some reason, how would you complete the cut? As the blade is circular, even if you set the depth to maximum, you'll never actually be able to remove a section of 20mm flooring with this tool. It would always require an additional tool due to the angle of cut. In other words, if you're working to markings with a plunge saw, the top face of the piece will be cut to the line before the bottom face is.

Another thing they promote is the ability to trim hardwood flooring edges in-situ. Yes, of course, but whilst you might be only 12mm from the wall laterally, you cannot possibly finish a line, as the blade is set back about 8cm from the front of the saw. So what about the 8cm you leave behind, how do you cut it on a floor in-situ? If it's so easy to finish off, the plunge wouldn't be necessary in the first place.

Am I wrong? Whilst it doesn't bother me per say, the marketing of it appears misleading. The "reviews", tellingly, never show a complete finished cut when it comes to plunge ability.

So whats the trick if you're wanting to cut out say, a 20cm square of the centre of a kitchen worktop of 35mm with a plunge saw or trim a floor edge up against a wall (into a corner..like every wall)? Finish with a hand saw?
 
Isn't that obvious? It hasn't got a jigsaw built in. If there's nothing below cut as deep as possible this leaves minimal work freeing the chopped out piece and a few swipes with a chisel and you would never know!
 
adidat":35htc2hi said:
Isn't that obvious? It hasn't got a jigsaw built in. If there's nothing below cut as deep as possible this leaves minimal work freeing the chopped out piece and a few swipes with a chisel and you would never know!
+1 - it's a 'circular' saw, after all; jigsaw or multimaster to finish the cut, as required. Also, OP needs to make the distinction between 'advertising' and 'reviews' - they're quite different things.

Cheers, Pete
 
The marketing probably is leaving out the manual steps of finishing the plunge cuts with other tools.

I laid a couple of solid oak floors before I had all my workshop kit. I used a circular saw, floorboard saw and a flush trim type saw. In my experience, cutting things in situ was never a good strategy. You need the pieces pre-cut and then 'dry-laid'. Then mostly you avoid the situation you mentioned.

I would say you may risk damaging your subfloor as well if you are using the saw on laid sections.

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20cm is quite small, however when doing the cut outs for hob and sink I was able to get beautiful accurate straight cuts. One could go to the corners on the top and cut the rest with a handsaw flush. I tended to leave a bit and do a curve with a router as it's stronger.

I rough cut worktops with it but did final cut with router to avoid chip out.

Floors I tend to agree. Just use a mitre saw.

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Bodgers":1p2jgi5g said:
The marketing probably is leaving out the manual steps of finishing the plunge cuts with other tools.

I laid a couple of solid oak floors before I had all my workshop kit. I used a circular saw, floorboard saw and a flush trim type saw. In my experience, cutting things in situ was never a good strategy. You need the pieces pre-cut and then 'dry-laid'. Then mostly you avoid the situation you mentioned.

I would say you may risk damaging your subfloor as well if you are using the saw on laid sections.

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Basically this.

Otherwise the saw is great and of course very accurate.
 
petermillard":1r3mijhx said:
adidat":1r3mijhx said:
OP needs to make the distinction between 'advertising' and 'reviews' - they're quite different things.

Where Festool is concerned, I'm not entirely sure I agree. It's part of their marketing strategy which is why you'll almost never hear a negative comment on youtube about a Festool product even in a so called review. The exception being the guy who rips power tools to bits to see how they are made.

I like Festool products, just wish things were a little more transparent I suppose.
 
The exception being the guy who rips power tools to bits to see how they are made.
:lol: Made me laugh! I used to have one of these - my repair guy Dave - he terrified reps who were showing off new machines. They'd be in bits on his bench within minutes. Just wish I'd taken some photo's.

Sorry - I digressed - just recognised the type and p'd myself laughing. :lol:
 

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