HOJ
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I did the opposite, I kept the box and threw the jigsaw away, when it came back from festool in bits.am I missing something......?....all tool containers just get binned at my place....
got enough junk.....
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I did the opposite, I kept the box and threw the jigsaw away, when it came back from festool in bits.am I missing something......?....all tool containers just get binned at my place....
got enough junk.....
Hmm...my tools are handy and ready for use in their neat and tidy boxes. For example, when I finish drilling, I put the bit back in the drill index and the drill back in the box. I don't have to hunt around for anything because I know where it is.Seems like a lot of people don't keep there tools handy and ready for use but all neat and tidy in boxes.
I never win raffles...PerryGunn.
Email me your address, stick a fiver in a local small charity box and it's yours.
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Getting well off topic now but about 4 years ago I heard David Coulthard on a podcast saying that all the success he'd had is mostly down to being over organised. The tag line was basically "I can show you a method that means you'll never ever have to look for something ever again....Once you've finished using something, put it away".Hmm...my tools are handy and ready for use in their neat and tidy boxes. For example, when I finish drilling, I put the bit back in the drill index and the drill back in the box. I don't have to hunt around for anything because I know where it is.
Years ago, I had a conversation with a security expert from my higher headquarters about the time required to install a particular door lock. I told him I can install the lock, on average, in about six hours, depending on the door panel and door frame. He didn't believe me because his best time was over eight hours on a standard door. I installed over 25 of those locks, and he installed over 100, yet his time was significantly longer than mine.
He watched me install one of the locks a few days later and laughed because organized all of the lock hardware in small plastic bins in the order they will be used and I was putting my tools back in the tool boxes between operations. He wasn't laughing when I was finished the installation just over five hours later. That's when he realized he wasted a lot of time looking for a tool he had just used or looking for the next lock component to install.
I only just saw this thread and was intrigued because I too have a Systainer that will never again see the router it once contained...9y and counting! - I'll be posting it up as a FTAGH soon - I just need to find it.....Hmm...my tools are handy and ready for use in their neat and tidy boxes. For example, when I finish drilling, I put the bit back in the drill index and the drill back in the box. I don't have to hunt around for anything because I know where it is.
Years ago, I had a conversation with a security expert from my higher headquarters about the time required to install a particular door lock. I told him I can install the lock, on average, in about six hours, depending on the door panel and door frame. He didn't believe me because his best time was over eight hours on a standard door. I installed over 25 of those locks, and he installed over 100, yet his time was significantly longer than mine.
He watched me install one of the locks a few days later and laughed because organized all of the lock hardware in small plastic bins in the order they will be used and I was putting my tools back in the tool boxes between operations. He wasn't laughing when I was finished the installation just over five hours later. That's when he realized he wasted a lot of time looking for a tool he had just used or looking for the next lock component to install.
Mine is always chaos, I just haven't enough space. The one thing I've done for a long time is at the end of use I cable tie the leads of any mains tools. It comes from working somewhere with totally inadequate wiring and putting five metre leads on everything - I wasted an hour one morning untangling the leads of seven or eight tools. It would probably have been easier and quicker to have cut the plugs off and replaced them afterwards. Never again.I think most likely an ordered/tidy workshop is a sensible approach for most folk, however for the few like me the chaos that most folk see in my workshop just works for me!
You must be the exception to the rule mike When i work everything comes out and then gets placed on whatever surface is free. During any job i've 7 powertool cables crisscrossing the floor and their tools everydamnwhereHmm...my tools are handy and ready for use in their neat and tidy boxes. For example, when I finish drilling, I put the bit back in the drill index and the drill back in the box. I don't have to hunt around for anything because I know where it is.
You must be the exception to the rule mike
I tend to have my most used tools at hand and as they go down the list of becoming less and less used they do end up more put away just to make space. I know how Mike was conditioned, there are other industries that work along similar lines where every tool has to be booked out to the job and before that job can be signed off every tool has to be booked back in and accounted for, shame it's not std practice in our NHS as it would save opening someone up again to retrieve that missing tool !I am the product of military conditioning and it's second nature now.
I tend to have my most used tools at hand and as they go down the list of becoming less and less used they do end up more put away just to make space. I know how Mike was conditioned, there are other industries that work along similar lines where every tool has to be booked out to the job and before that job can be signed off every tool has to be booked back in and accounted for, shame it's not std practice in our NHS as it would save opening someone up again to retrieve that missing tool !
The other great storage ideas are shadow boards and the way some people like Denis in Hooked on wood keep tools like routers on a wall board.
Thanks Phil - much appreciatedPerry - it managed the difficult trip from my wife's car to the drop off, so it's on its way.
I found the NHS very organised - they marked the leg for amputation with a huge arrow in indelible ink.shame it's not std practice in our NHS as it would save opening someone up again to retrieve that missing tool !
Snap Mike, in our armoury, and kitchen the chefs and armourers had similer set ups, then when I left and Festo later Festool came out with their tool boxes I was a happy bunny, today I must have 30 systainers with the original tools in , and a tool wall with self made tool holders on a French cleat wallI am the product of military conditioning and it's second nature now.
I seem to recall seeing a photo of your workshop, it was incredibly tidy. It is something I find difficult, I do try but I “put things down” almost sub consciously, normally in an obvious location, but then struggle to find it. I have spent a lot of time organising things in boxes, not just tools but materials, so I can usually find things but it is a real effort. My main problem is keeping left over materials and deciding what to get rid of and how, sell, tip, charity shop.Hmm...my tools are handy and ready for use in their neat and tidy boxes. For example, when I finish drilling, I put the bit back in the drill index and the drill back in the box. I don't have to hunt around for anything because I know where it is.
Years ago, I had a conversation with a security expert from my higher headquarters about the time required to install a particular door lock. I told him I can install the lock, on average, in about six hours, depending on the door panel and door frame. He didn't believe me because his best time was over eight hours on a standard door. I installed over 25 of those locks, and he installed over 100, yet his time was significantly longer than mine.
He watched me install one of the locks a few days later and laughed because organized all of the lock hardware in small plastic bins in the order they will be used and I was putting my tools back in the tool boxes between operations. He wasn't laughing when I was finished the installation just over five hours later. That's when he realized he wasted a lot of time looking for a tool he had just used or looking for the next lock component to install.
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