Festool syslight Worklight- Have they finally gone mad?

[owsnap]

saw a random video ad and had to see more about it,
£342 for a worklight.. bloody hell...

http://www.ffx.co.uk/tools/product/Fest ... -Systainer

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

If you were a painter and decorator then you'd want this. We had one to trial and didn't buy it because it was TO bright anyone else working looking at it would get arc eye but for a sole trader they are brilliant

 

[cowfoot]

As a painter and decorator, site lights that show up imperfections that are invisible under normal conditions (ie daylight and domestic bulbs) are a pain in the proverbial. You end up spending hours filling/rubbing down stuff that doesn't actually matter.

 

[owsnap]

As a painter and decorator, site lights that show up imperfections that are invisible under normal conditions (ie daylight and domestic bulbs) are a pain in the proverbial. You end up spending hours filling/rubbing down stuff that doesn't actually matter.

If you are like me than I will finish even the smallest imperfection even it doesn't really matters.

 

[cowfoot]

Stick me on a decent day rate and I'm the same!

 

[NickN]

If Carlsberg did LED Worklights...


... they'd probably still be cheaper... :lol:

 

[Doug B]

They're only expensive if you think too long about it :-k

 

[MikeJhn]

Yes they have gone mad, but not as mad as some of the Festool junkies that will buy them.

Mike

 

[Beau]

It's easy to laugh but thinking about it lots of folk buy insanely expensive cars when cheap ones are 90% as good. No different with tools and at least tools can earn you a crust. Saying this as non Festool owner.

 

[AJB Temple]

This argument cab be applied to anything:
Why buy a large house when you could live in a smaller one
Why buy a painting when you could decorate with a print
Why have a large garden when an allotment is all you need to grow produce
Why buy a new bicycle when a used one is just as functional and a quarter of the price
Why shop at Waitrose when you could shop at Lidl
Why buy a bespoke suit when you can buy a Chinese mass produced one far cheaper

Its all about personal preference. Each to his or her own. Value judgements are in any case proportional to wealth. A £10 note is a lifeline to a beggar and irrelevant to a millionaire.

 

[MikeJhn]

It's easy to laugh but thinking about it lots of folk buy insanely expensive cars when cheap ones are 90% as good. No different with tools and at least tools can earn you a crust. Saying this as non Festool owner.

There speaks someone who has never owned a decent car. =D> shops at Lidl and spends a lot of time on their allotment. :wink:

Mike

 

[DiscoStu]

Do you know, I own a pretty expensive Discovery, I also own a Corsa and I have to say the Land Rover is not worth 5 Corsa's. However I do love it and won't be swapping it. I also recently had the new Rang Rover £110k worth and it's not 11 times the car the Corsa is. It's very nice but you couldn't say it was worth that price difference. Our little Corsa has heated seats, heated steering wheel and Apple Car connectivity so Apple maps and music etc. It really is a bargain.


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[RossJarvis]

Having bought a Mafell "cross cut" saw a while back, for rafters, beams and the like, I was kicking myself when Festool brought out a cheaper copy this year. On occasion Festool can actually be the "budget" option!

 

[MikeJhn]

Some of these expensive cars can turn out to be a real bargain, I have one that I bought for £500.00 long time back, its now worth 15 times as much, not that I would sell it, no heated seats or steering wheel, not even ABS, but it does mean I can work on it myself without any diagnostic equipment, in case anyone is wondering, it has a magnesium crankcase and horzontilly opposed nicoseal cylinders.

Mike

 

[YorkshireMartin]

I think the key is in the name. It's a work light. So if you're in business and presumably making a profit, you can buy it and completely write the cost off. Safe in the knowledge you have Festool's warranty backup, service and probably a very good tool to boot. Not tried one so can't say, but thats why Festool sell and it's certainly why I buy their products. I don't have time to screw around researching on some items, so I put my trust in the same brand I use for key tools.

The cost is completely irrelevant if your company is suitably profitable.

 

[YorkshireMartin]

As a painter and decorator, site lights that show up imperfections that are invisible under normal conditions (ie daylight and domestic bulbs) are a pain in the proverbial. You end up spending hours filling/rubbing down stuff that doesn't actually matter.

If you are like me than I will finish even the smallest imperfection even it doesn't really matters.

Further to my post. I respect that approach and I am the same, but it costs you money and time. The point being made was that this worklight, due to it's spec, will show up imperfections you can't see, thereby saving you the time and money of correcting things that may not need it if you were only to make an educated guess.

 

[Claud1]

Here we go again it doesn't matter, of course it matters if you are the one paying for the job I have had (so called tradesmen like you ) and I can assure you it does matter

 

[owsnap]

As a painter and decorator, site lights that show up imperfections that are invisible under normal conditions (ie daylight and domestic bulbs) are a pain in the proverbial. You end up spending hours filling/rubbing down stuff that doesn't actually matter.

If you are like me than I will finish even the smallest imperfection even it doesn't really matters.

Further to my post. I respect that approach and I am the same, but it costs you money and time. The point being made was that this worklight, due to it's spec, will show up imperfections you can't see, thereby saving you the time and money of correcting things that may not need it if you were only to make an educated guess.

I thought it's actually a good feature not a bad feature. #-o
When I'm doing something like that I wait when it's dark outside, take my flashlight and go in the room with it and find/fix even the tiniest imperfections there is.. No way really to see all of them except this way.

 

[YorkshireMartin]

I thought it's actually a good feature not a bad feature. #-o
When I'm doing something like that I wait when it's dark outside, take my flashlight and go in the room with it and find/fix even the tiniest imperfections there is.. No way really to see all of them except this way.

Attention to detail is a brilliant trait. All I'm saying is, that you might well save a ton of time having a powerful 5000K colour temp light vs. (almost any) torch and can still keep the same attention to detail. Better for the client, better for you. So the couple of hundred quid, spread over many jobs and written off against profits, is well worth it. In my opinion anyway.

 

[cowfoot]

"When I'm doing something like that I wait when it's dark outside, take my flashlight and go in the room with it and find/fix even the tiniest imperfections there is.. No way really to see all of them except this way."

Forgive me, but that's utterly bonkers.
If you can't see imperfections under normal conditions, they basically don't exist. Who else is going to shine a torch at it? Every tradesman knows that there's a limit to how much time (ie money) you can spend.
The bloke I served my time as an apprentice decorator told me that you should always aim to paint in the same conditions as the room will be afterwards. It's often important to wait until dark and stick the overhead lights on.
For what it's worth I've since worked with Hare & Humphries and FWA on the Palace of Westminster, I've forgotten more about getting a decent finish than most will know...