Eurolock cylinders

[sneggysteve]

Saw on Youtube how easy it is to snap a cylinder lock. Any recomendations on anti snap and 3 star cylinders?

 

[eribaMotters]

I think a bit more research on Youtube would help clarify matters as locks do differ.
We had the Eurolocks on our last property and paid extra for the feature I think you are describing.
The feature of this upgrade meant if somebody tried to force entry from outside then the lock barrel would snap. From inside with the correct key you would still be able to open the lock.

Colin

 

[Bingy man]

Look for insurance approved - the cost is also a clue as to the quality , well known brands - Yale , Chubb , union parkes are among the best imo ..
Edit. Assa abloy may have taken over from union parks ..

 

[Setch]

Edit. Assa abloy may have taken over from union parks ..

Assa Abloy have taken over everyone!

 

[Mickjay]

My go to euro cylinder lock is Avocet ABS, replaced all of them with these in the houses of my whole family.

This place seems to be the cheapest supplier, best I could find anyway. They are very helpful and knowledgeable. I have no vested interest here just a very satisfied customer for over 10 years now.

https://www.barnsleylock.co.uk/avocet-abs-ultimate-cylinders-13-c.asp

 

[Adam W.]

I've got Yale 3 star euro locks, they seem to be pretty good although the silly screw wasn't long enough for the Yale mortice lock, so I had to make one out of threaded bar.

 

[Flynnwood]

Just did this recently with Yale 3 Star. 4 minutes to replace.
Best practice is to get them sent / delivered to a different address.

 

[Spectric]

You want anti snap and anti bump. How far you need to go depends on the area and crime rates.

One of the better euro locks is from Abloy, https://www.amazon.co.uk/ABLOY-CY332T-PROTEC2-Security-Cylinder/dp/B07D22JKNZ?th=1

For maximum security this type of lock is best used in decent front doors with no letter box, something like a Rockdoor

https://www.rockdoor.com/?utm_term=...MIx7XbsJOXggMVOJ6DBx14YwBBEAAYAiAAEgJaP_D_BwE
letter boxes make you vunerable .

 

[Skeety]

Another vote for Avocet. Has them in all doors at home and also fitted them for family.

A quick annual maintenance with the powdered graphite, never had a problem.

A bonus for me is being able to order the locks keyed alike.

Cheers,

Jon.

 

[SimonL]

We recently had a new door and it came with Ultion locks - they had a big tag on the key offering guarantees so I looked them up and ended up buying more cylinders with the same key which is very convenient as Skeety suggests above.

They have video on the website showing how/why the snapping feature works

https://www.ultion-lock.co.uk/

 

[Alli]

As others have said Avocet are good. You can key up all the locks to operate from the same key, you can also do the same with their padlocks. I have front and back doors + 2 side gates all operate form one key.

 

[sneggysteve]

Thanks to everyone for their recomendations - I will spend a couple of hours checking them out.

 

[graduate_owner]

Another vote for Avocet. Has them in all doors at home and also fitted them for family.

A quick annual maintenance with the powdered graphite, never had a problem.

A bonus for me is being able to order the locks keyed alike.

Cheers,

Jon.

Slightly different topic but when you said 'keyed alike' it reminded me of a house my parents bought on an estate in the 1970's. They had night latch locks, Rabbit brand. Keyed alike applied to practically the whole estate, I don't think there were more than about 5 variations of key all told.

K

 

[graduate_owner]

What is the security issue with letter boxes?

K

 

[sneggysteve]

A couple of points -
I see the benefits of same key locks, but are there any downsides?

What about thumbturned cylinders - easier than using key to lock from inside, but any problems?

Thanks

 

[yngndrw]

I always used to get Avocet ABS keyed-alike locks, but now that we've moved to a house with an Annexe we went for the Avocet ABS master-key series. The main house and Annexe both have their own set of keys, but there are "shared" locks which can be opened by both keys for the outbuildings. It's fantastic having a single key, much less to carry around and you never find yourself having to go back into the house to get another key. You can also get keyed alike padlocks for gates etc.

On the question of thumbturns: The trade-off is between security and fire-safety. For security, there are thumbturn tools which can go around the door - But that's usually because a door isn't secure in the first place and has large gaps. For fire, it lets you get out in an emergency without fumbling for keys. A fire is far more likely to happen than someone specifically trying to break in using specialist equipment IMO, and is much more serious. Thumb-turns are also much more convenient when answering the door and if you often leave a key inside the door, you are better off with a thumb-turn anyway. All of ours are thumb-turn, even on the conservatory.

 

[DeanN]

What is the security issue with letter boxes?

K

Unless a security cowling is used, it provides an opening through which a "tool" can be used to manipulate the lock if a key is left in or thumbturn is used.

I've anti-snap locks, don't use thumbturns, or leave keys in locks, and don't have a letterbox. That's about as safe as I can make my doors.

 

[cowtown_eric]

locks only keep the honest folks out.

 

[Grandad455]

Reference thumb turns, had a case where a key safe was fitted outside and the customer left her key in the lock inside. This effectively blocked opening the door from the outside with the key safe key. Changing that to a thumb turn solved the problem. In fact, both back and front doors were changed to keyed alike with inner thumb turns.

 

[Sachakins]

Inner thumb turns allow burglar to exit easily whereas keyed lock can deadlock the door, forcing them out the way they came, always a riskier egress for them. Thumb turns, like night latch or snip near a glazed panel very risky.