Soon the individual will be unable to do anything for themselves,I went to my local Quarry yesterday with my car and trailer for some 20mm chips got some after some faffing around it turns out after Tuesday cars and trailers are banned from Quarries by the HSE.So once again the small guy gets screwed by stupid rules shoving the price of small quantities to ridiculus prices. :evil: :evil: :evil:
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blackrodd
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I fully agree with you, but there have been lots of wonky badly covered trailers spewing chippings on the road and cracking screens round here in sunny Devon.
So we all will be getting bagged stuff from now and at more expense!
Regards Rodders
So we all will be getting bagged stuff from now and at more expense!
Regards Rodders
finneyb
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I suspect its something to do with keeping quarry vehicles and pedestrians separated. People tend to lose out big time in any accident with quarry vehicles. Not sure where Tuesday fits in but some do talk BS at times. http://www.hse.gov.uk/workplacetransport/separating.htm
If the quarry has a mind to it should still be able to sell to the public just design the layout to keep the people away from quarry vehicles, it shouldn't be beyond the wit of man to solve.
HTH
Brian
If the quarry has a mind to it should still be able to sell to the public just design the layout to keep the people away from quarry vehicles, it shouldn't be beyond the wit of man to solve.
HTH
Brian
finneyb
Established Member
themackay":29hdr2kp said:
That's the type of thing I'm talking about, keeps pedestrians safe.
Assuming that the rule is complied with and people do not get out of their car I suspect the quarries approach has nothing to do with HSE, and more probably to do with the quarry not wanting to be bothered with small uneconomic, for them, orders.
Brian
mseries
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finneyb":vpe4vuzg said:
I suspect the rule is in place from 1st April which is Wednesday.
stuartpaul
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I think it highly unlikely that the HSE have 'banned' cars and trailers from your local quarry!
Far more likely that the quarry have decided the insurance risk is to high so have decided to 'reduce' the risk by preventing access. The pedestrain separation has been an 'issue' since rhe workplace regs came out in 1992.
Still, - wouldn't want the truth to get in the way of a H&S bashing story would we!
Far more likely that the quarry have decided the insurance risk is to high so have decided to 'reduce' the risk by preventing access. The pedestrain separation has been an 'issue' since rhe workplace regs came out in 1992.
Still, - wouldn't want the truth to get in the way of a H&S bashing story would we!
finneyb
Established Member
mseries":1a0yspyd said:
That would be the start of the new financial year in local govt.
Further convinces me that its either a new sales policy or an insurance issue.
And nothing to do with HSE
Brian
lurker
Le dullard de la commune
stuartpaul":2armyjty said:
I agree.
You would be very surprised how little HSE actually ban.
mind_the_goat
Established Member
HSE is often an excuse to save having to explain a more complicated issue.
As already suggested it could be a number of things, insurers calling it out, maybe not worth their while dealing with the public, a recent incident has made them review their policy etc
A local scrap dealer used to let people wander round their yard on Saturdays, while huge cranes threw steel around. Made me feel very nervous being near them. They've now stopped allowing public access but another yard a bit further away lets people in at any time.
Most enjoyable way to spend an hour or two, wandering around picking through other peoples rubbish, I highly recommend it
As already suggested it could be a number of things, insurers calling it out, maybe not worth their while dealing with the public, a recent incident has made them review their policy etc
A local scrap dealer used to let people wander round their yard on Saturdays, while huge cranes threw steel around. Made me feel very nervous being near them. They've now stopped allowing public access but another yard a bit further away lets people in at any time.
Most enjoyable way to spend an hour or two, wandering around picking through other peoples rubbish, I highly recommend it
whiskywill
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Part of my job involves keeping up to date with HSE legislation and I get regular bulletins from the HSE listing any updates including loads of things not relevant to me. I have had nothing on this and had a look online.
This site http://www.safequarry.com/Public_Safety.aspx doesn't mention it so could it be, yet another, rumour or misunderstanding?
This site http://www.safequarry.com/Public_Safety.aspx doesn't mention it so could it be, yet another, rumour or misunderstanding?
Its not a rumour or misunderstanding for me went to the quarry on Monday got a couple of loads told me you wont get any tomorrow we are implementing the new rules a day early said will try to get back for another load not giving you another one as im not doing any more cash sales today helpfull or what
Update went to my other local quarry today no problem with car and trailer so its just the council imposing rules and blaming health and safety they also lied to me by saying all quarrys were banning carswhiskywill":1ynij1qx said:
lurker
Le dullard de la commune
themackay":21slhqhb said:
That's what we were trying to tell you!
Local authorities (councils) are the worst for this.
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