Delta Bobbin sander SOLD

[Blister]

Matty


Sorry I took so long to reply , I have just got home from Work
To find your rant regarding the items I sell :?

Firstly I can post what I want for sale !

Secondly , Its like suffering from Déjà vu ( From Wikipedia ) ( (an individual feels as though an event has already happened or has happened in the recent past ) I cant be arsed to trawl through the previous posts on this , but will say this

YOU don't have to view the for sale adds if they wind you up so much

And I fail to see on the bobbin sander add where I said it was a bargain ? :? and hyped it up , I suggest you re read the add

I have asked the Moderators in the past If I am breaking any rules , And the answer was NO

I have put a poll up asking if forum members wanted me to stop posting items for sale , the result was something like 185 said keep posting and 2 said don't keep posting ,

And I asked if any forum member was unhappy with any items from me , and again the reply ( No not unhappy )

What I fail to understand is this , WHY when individuals have no intention of purchasing do they hijack / derail the thread ??????????

Is it out of spite ? nothing better to do ? I fail to understand , I really do

That's why I started the post by reminding people its a for sale thread , as simple as that . Item for sale , easy , end of , If you are genuinely interested fair enough , but to come up with derogatory comments :?

Other forum users have withdrawn items for sale when they have had the thread derailed ?


So watch this space for some more items for sale , unless for sale items are no longer allowed




I am off to bed now after my 9 hour shift :roll:

DID you know , I drive a lorry for a living :!:


MODERATORS Please let me know if any forum rules have changed regarding posting items for sale , Thanks :lol:

 

[Doctor]

I am off to bed now after my 9 hour shift :roll:

9hrs per day :shock: where do I get one of them nice jobs then?

 

[SBJ]

I think the problem, Blister, is that it appears that your continual posting of for sale items are not the normal turnover of tools that a hobby woodworker would have. Your prices are never bargains, often more expensive than equivalent ebay listings. By doing this you are appearing to act as a trader and should be subject to the same scrutiny to that of other traders.

By other members posting opinions on the price/quality of the items that you are selling they are acting to protect other members that perhaps aren't aware of the alternatives. They are acting for the members of this forum, and if this upsets you then perhaps you need to take some time to reflect on whose benefit you think that the forum should be run for. You could do this whilst you are driving your lorry

 

[studders]

I believe I voted in that Poll that I had no problem with anyone who was a Forum Member selling items via the Forum. I also raised the point, and will do so again, that having posted something for sale the seller should not be allowed to dictate who can reply, how they reply or for what reason. Hence my sarcastic reply about the Weather to your listing.
It irritated me that, once again, you appeared to want to stiffle any possibility of any comment and, in particular, any chance of negative comments.
I don't really care what you sell or how often, it is for the Mods to decide if someone is a genuine Hobby seller or if they are something more commercial.
This is a Forum, it is not ebay and, more importantly, you are a member, not the owner, of this Forum; you have not paid to advertise so why do you think you can lay down rules when you do?
I recall you asked for these threads to be locked once the original post had been made, that didn't happen, thank goodness, yet you still appear to want your way when it comes to selling.
Either be prepared to take comments as part of selling on the forum or stick to ebay but don't try to tell others what they can or cannot post, that's the Mods job, not yours.

 

[Mattty]

I believe I voted in that Poll that I had no problem with anyone who was a Forum Member selling items via the Forum. I also raised the point, and will do so again, that having posted something for sale the seller should not be allowed to dictate who can reply, how they reply or for what reason. Hence my sarcastic reply about the Weather to your listing.
It irritated me that, once again, you appeared to want to stiffle any possibility of any comment and, in particular, any chance of negative comments.
I don't really care what you sell or how often, it is for the Mods to decide if someone is a genuine Hobby seller or if they are something more commercial.
This is a Forum, it is not ebay and, more importantly, you are a member, not the owner, of this Forum; you have not paid to advertise so why do you think you can lay down rules when you do?
I recall you asked for these threads to be locked once the original post had been made, that didn't happen, thank goodness, yet you still appear to want your way when it comes to selling.
Either be prepared to take comments as part of selling on the forum or stick to ebay but don't try to tell others what they can or cannot post, that's the Mods job, not yours.

If only i could have written this. This is exactly my sentiment.

 

[Blister]

I am off to bed now after my 9 hour shift :roll:

9hrs per day :shock: where do I get one of them nice jobs then?

Again taken from Wikipedia

The Working Time Directive of the European Union (Council Directive 93/104/EC of 23 November 1993 concerning certain aspects of the organization of working time, Official Journal L 307, 13/12/1993 pages 0018–0024; amended by Directive 2000/34/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council of 22 June 2000) is a collection of regulations concerning hours of work, designed to protect the health and safety of workers. Key features are the limiting of the maximum length of a working week to 48 hours in 7 days, a minimum rest period of 11 hours in each 24 hours and a minimum number of paid leave days per Annam

Perhaps you need to speak to your employers , but its only my opinion , or should I keep it to myself :-k

 

[Blister]

I believe I voted in that Poll that I had no problem with anyone who was a Forum Member selling items via the Forum. I also raised the point, and will do so again, that having posted something for sale the seller should not be allowed to dictate who can reply, how they reply or for what reason. Hence my sarcastic reply about the Weather to your listing.
It irritated me that, once again, you appeared to want to stiffle any possibility of any comment and, in particular, any chance of negative comments.
I don't really care what you sell or how often, it is for the Mods to decide if someone is a genuine Hobby seller or if they are something more commercial.
This is a Forum, it is not ebay and, more importantly, you are a member, not the owner, of this Forum; you have not paid to advertise so why do you think you can lay down rules when you do?
I recall you asked for these threads to be locked once the original post had been made, that didn't happen, thank goodness, yet you still appear to want your way when it comes to selling.
Either be prepared to take comments as part of selling on the forum or stick to ebay but don't try to tell others what they can or cannot post, that's the Mods job, not yours.

Be sure to see the new ( Test style add ) later today

 

[miles_hot]

I believe I voted in that Poll that I had no problem with anyone who was a Forum Member selling items via the Forum. I also raised the point, and will do so again, that having posted something for sale the seller should not be allowed to dictate who can reply, how they reply or for what reason. Hence my sarcastic reply about the Weather to your listing.
It irritated me that, once again, you appeared to want to stiffle any possibility of any comment and, in particular, any chance of negative comments.
I don't really care what you sell or how often, it is for the Mods to decide if someone is a genuine Hobby seller or if they are something more commercial.
This is a Forum, it is not ebay and, more importantly, you are a member, not the owner, of this Forum; you have not paid to advertise so why do you think you can lay down rules when you do?
I recall you asked for these threads to be locked once the original post had been made, that didn't happen, thank goodness, yet you still appear to want your way when it comes to selling.
Either be prepared to take comments as part of selling on the forum or stick to ebay but don't try to tell others what they can or cannot post, that's the Mods job, not yours.

If only i could have written this. This is exactly my sentiment.

The thing is chaps - there is no law that says one can not comment on a for sale posting, in some ways it helps to keep it at the top of the board so you might actually be helping the OP .

If someone has experience (positive or negative) on the item being sold then that's all good stuff. The price is rather more subjective and tends to raise heckles rather more than reviews - i always ignore someone who comes on and says "oh, £200 is far too expensive for that bit of rubbish" but if someone comes on and says "the price might be a bit steep - ebay ones always go for 120 - 180 see these listings and provides 3 examples" then that will get some attention.

I appreciate Matty that you've held back in the past based on some peoples' request that for sale threads are not for commenting but that was your choice. That sounds rather nah nah na nar nar but it isn't meant to There is a very fine line to be trodden between providing honest review of the item / reasonable comment on the price and being seen to attempt to kibosh the sale. Various people have commented that the sander in this for sale thread is a good one which contrasts with your negative review. I note that people very rarely get upset one other people comment that the item is a bargain

By the way if you've got any comments on my saw please feel free as I've no idea what its actually worth Though I think that Tom"s offer is a little optimistic :lol:

I would say that dealing with Blister is a comfortable process (typically more so than ebay) and I have yet to see a thread which complains that something he has sold on is defective / not as described / rubbish so he's a better bet than ebay but you pays your money and takes your choice. If you believe that something is overpriced don't buy it - most people will do a completed items check to confirm that the price is in the correct ball park...

I'm starting to ramble now so I'll stop and get back to applying for jobs so I have some more money for toys, sorry vital tools

Miles

 

[miles_hot]

I am off to bed now after my 9 hour shift :roll:

9hrs per day :shock: where do I get one of them nice jobs then?

Again taken from Wikipedia

The Working Time Directive of the European Union (Council Directive 93/104/EC of 23 November 1993 concerning certain aspects of the organization of working time, Official Journal L 307, 13/12/1993 pages 0018–0024; amended by Directive 2000/34/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council of 22 June 2000) is a collection of regulations concerning hours of work, designed to protect the health and safety of workers. Key features are the limiting of the maximum length of a working week to 48 hours in 7 days, a minimum rest period of 11 hours in each 24 hours and a minimum number of paid leave days per Annam

Perhaps you need to speak to your employers , but its only my opinion , or should I keep it to myself :-k

Thank God I can (and have) opt out of that one - I'd never get it all done when I'm working for a client

Talk about thread drift though - bobbin sander to EU Regulations

Miles

 

[Tom K]

Just collected the sander from Blister and had the shop tour,coming along nicely!
The machine looks pretty much new and even had the paperwork with it.
Very happy with it so..

Cheers Blister!

 

[head clansman]

hi blister

I have bought from blister only recently ,and had a good bargain in my opinion , a bargain is only a bargain in the eyes of the buyer , we all pay what we feel is the right price for any item we are after at the time . Those of you who think what he has for sale is not a bargain stay out of his threads and don't spoil it for him or others, you would be the first up i arms complaining if it happen to you , keep selling blister , I for one will be back in touch with you again very soon , keep smiling blister keep selling and only stop if the mods tell you to. hc :wink:

 

[Mattty]

hi blister

I have bought from blister only recently ,and had a good bargain in my opinion , a bargain is only a bargain in the eyes of the buyer , we all pay what we feel is the right price for any item we are after at the time . Those of you who think what he has for sale is not a bargain stay out of his threads and don't spoil it for him or others, you would be the first up i arms complaining if it happen to you , keep selling blister , I for one will be back in touch with you again very soon , keep smiling blister keep selling and only stop if the mods tell you to. hc :wink:

I am not looking to spoil it for him, read the thread comments fully before making rash accusations. I will make any comment i feel like.
Please feel free to make any comment on any thing i say.
Why are you trying to stiffle constructive comments?

 

[cambournepete]

Meanwhile, back (almost) on topic.

I always check (forum search, google etc) for reviews and price when something is advertised here, making sure to compare like for like.
I also look at the asking price as a starting point for negotiation.
Anyone else can do the same and I'd expect them to for something I'm selling.
Comparing with Ebay is OK, but prices on Ebay can vary wildly, depending on condition, location, time of the year, end time of auction etc.
I'd rather buy from someone I know than a random ebayer.
It's all very well trying to "protect" other forum members, but any of us can do any of the above.

If people feel they really must comment on a "for sale" item I'd like to suggest there's no need to be so aggressive in your wording...

Blister does tend to sell more stuff here than most, but so what?
If you're not interested then don't read then thread.

Regarding the B.O.S.S.
The one Blister has sold comes with all the bobbins, the Ebay has just one from what I could see.
They cost quite a lot new so I think Blister's asking price was reasonable.

 

[studders]

Those of you who think what he has for sale is not a bargain stay out of his threads and don't spoil it for him

I am not looking to spoil it for him, read the thread comments fully before making rash accusations. I will make any comment i feel like.
Please feel free to make any comment on any thing i say.
Why are you trying to stiffle constructive comments?

Ta, saved me having to reply to that ridiculous comment.

 

[jimi43]

Regarding the B.O.S.S.
The one Blister has sold comes with all the bobbins, the Ebay has just one from what I could see.
They cost quite a lot new so I think Blister's asking price was reasonable

I don't think anyone should have expected to get a Bobbin for peanuts...

Bobbin for apples MAYBE....but peanuts...nah!!

I wish I could afford such a luxury at the moment...I will have to wait until one pops up at a bootfair! :roll:

Ok....OK! I'll get me coat....

:wink:

Jim

 

[matt]

Of course there's no reason why someone interested in purchasing shouldn't start a thread to raise queries about price/value etc. Interestingly, there seems to be more zeal for expressing opinion on For Sale threads whereas the former usually only attracts sage but non-commital responses. Funny that...

 

[jimi43]

Hey Matt, can you start a thread "For Sale....Gorgeous Motor Boat...Jimi has first refusal"?

 

[OPJ]

£125 is still a very good price for this machine, seeing as it appears to be in an unused state. The cheap Woodstar model now costs about £130, by comparison, and CSM Abrasives still have the Delta listed on their site for £186.95 - click here.

You should try to ignore some of the comments you've received in this thread. Or, if you can't do that; this may help, next time:

:wink:

 

[Mike.C]

Those of you who think what he has for sale is not a bargain stay out of his threads and don't spoil it for him

I am not looking to spoil it for him, read the thread comments fully before making rash accusations. I will make any comment i feel like.
Please feel free to make any comment on any thing i say.
Why are you trying to stiffle constructive comments?

Ta, saved me having to reply to that ridiculous comment.

Studders my man are you causing trouble again? :lol:

This has been blown out of all proportion. I think Mattty's problem (although he could of put it better) is the fact that Blister is dictating what can be said in his threads, which is wrong.

Blister if you were a new member and others were leaving comments like there has been in this thread I could see you having problems selling your items. But you have sold so much, that like Tomk I cannot see any potential buyer being put off.

As for saying that any of your items are to expensive, I'm sure that by the time you are contacted by pm the buyer has done all the checking that he needs to, and he will know what the item is really worth, and will either buy it or make you an offer accordingly.

I would'nt offer it to Studders though because he's certainly not after your goods, he only wants to come around and chat up your Mrs :lol:

Cheers

Mike

 

[Tom K]

£125 is still a very good price for this machine, seeing as it appears to be in an unused state. The cheap Woodstar model now costs about £130, by comparison, and CSM Abrasives still have the Delta listed on their site for £186.95 - click here.

That one only comes with the ¾" bobbin though :lol: which makes the BOSS I bought a reasonably good deal. The large bobbins are particularly expensive.