RogerS
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SWMBO noticed a fraudulent transaction (£600 plus) on her John Lewis card the other day. Leaving aside the fact that this transaction was so far out of her normal spending pattern that it doesn't say much for any anti-fraud algorithms John Lewis might have in place (as it wasn't picked up by them), I don't understand what benefit the fraudsters got.
The transaction went through hotelopia.com which is a hotel, car, transfer and activity booking site. Maybe the fraudster has got nerves of steel but paying in advance, say, for a hotel is surely leaving them wide open to the card holder spotting the fraud, contacting the card company etc ....but maybe the fraudster knows that this will take time and so they will have long gone from the hotel? Car hire....ditto. Refunds wouldn't work because they go back to the same card.
Anyone else any ideas as to what benefit the fraudster might get?
The scary thing is that when you go through the hotelopia website and make a booking, you are asked for the CVC number (ie the 3 or 4 digit security code on the card). This is supposed to prove that the person making the transaction has the physical card in their presence. Or not. Thing is when i dug a bit deeper, the payment organisation passes back to the merchant (hotelopia) a value based on how much of the information, such as CVC or address (although the latter is not asked for in this instance), actually matches what the credit card company holds. Now if Hotelopia's software (you can read the source code quite easily but I'm not up to speed to determine whether they bother with the CVC score or not ) ignores the CVC then that would explain why the transaction went through.
Or maybe the CVC is held 'in clear' by some other merchant that my wife dealt with in the past. It's easy enough looking at the code to store those details.
But does seem to throw a question mark on the relevance or validity of the so-called 'security check' CVC.
The transaction went through hotelopia.com which is a hotel, car, transfer and activity booking site. Maybe the fraudster has got nerves of steel but paying in advance, say, for a hotel is surely leaving them wide open to the card holder spotting the fraud, contacting the card company etc ....but maybe the fraudster knows that this will take time and so they will have long gone from the hotel? Car hire....ditto. Refunds wouldn't work because they go back to the same card.
Anyone else any ideas as to what benefit the fraudster might get?
The scary thing is that when you go through the hotelopia website and make a booking, you are asked for the CVC number (ie the 3 or 4 digit security code on the card). This is supposed to prove that the person making the transaction has the physical card in their presence. Or not. Thing is when i dug a bit deeper, the payment organisation passes back to the merchant (hotelopia) a value based on how much of the information, such as CVC or address (although the latter is not asked for in this instance), actually matches what the credit card company holds. Now if Hotelopia's software (you can read the source code quite easily but I'm not up to speed to determine whether they bother with the CVC score or not ) ignores the CVC then that would explain why the transaction went through.
Or maybe the CVC is held 'in clear' by some other merchant that my wife dealt with in the past. It's easy enough looking at the code to store those details.
But does seem to throw a question mark on the relevance or validity of the so-called 'security check' CVC.