Competition

[hog&bodge]

Sorry guys, I was told off by the powers that be and I don't come here for grief, so I'm out.

Good luck with it.

From what I have read on the forum since joining you have offered
nothing but help to all who join and when action is needed you step in
if you are wrong being you then it is there loss...just one word
for them NUMPTYS...The Wood Turning thread dwellers have given you our
support and always will...
Volunteering is a thankless task but you'd think the forum runners would grab any help that is offered... :?: :?: :?:

 

[Paul.J]

Wizer wrote

Sorry guys, I was told off by the powers that be and I don't come here for grief, so I'm out.

So Tom are you saying that the Mods have put a stop to the comp :?:
If so what do we have to do to get it going.Get their permission :?:
Excuse me for being so thick :roll:

 

[big soft moose]

Wizer wrote

Sorry guys, I was told off by the powers that be and I don't come here for grief, so I'm out.

So Tom are you saying that the Mods have put a stop to the comp :?:
If so what do we have to do to get it going.Get their permission :?:
Excuse me for being so thick :roll:

perhaps the "powers that be" should tell us publicly on this thread what the problem is ?

I'm not one to stir up trouble but its not fair that tom should take flak for this alone as it was a collective idea.

I'd be happy to pick up the organising batten if jenx's offer of help is still on the table - but we obviously need to know what the problem is/was before we do anything

is it to do with the other competition ? to do with seeking prize donations ? or just a lack of permision issue ? or something else ?

 

[Bodrighy]

As far as I am aware we hadn't got beyond th 'Is it worth having one' stage and were still investigating all the possibilities. Unless there has been something else that I have missed out on how can Tom be chastised for anything? Please could we know wht is wrong and why there has been 'flak' flying.

pete

 

[Paul.J]

If asking permission is the problem,then whoever wants to take over Toms roll ought to just ask,as this is what was done on the other comp :?
There does seem to be enough interest for quite a decent competition between ourselves.

 

[Jenx]

BSM - I'd help anybody, if I can. :wink: No problem there.

We'd best see what the lie of the land is in respect of 'who and what the powers that be actually are,' and why Tom's been 'nipped' .

FTAO - The 'Powers that be' -- : As Pete pointed out.. this has been nothing more than a discussion and some "exploratory thinking" between ourselves at this moment in time, and to 'pull a guy up' for putting himself forward to take on the (frankly) thankless task of co-ordinating the thinking, which.. if you cared to read the entirity of the discussion, makes very clear mention of ensuring the owners / operators of the site would be consulted and their blessing sought ONCE A PLAN WAS DECIDED UPON, is bordering on disgusting behaviour.
The self-same guy who organised the badges for everyones benefit too.. to add insult to injury.
Poor show, people... very poor.
I would have expected better.
That is very disappointing.
I think the guys here deserve some sort of explanation.

Lets hope some form of response is presented.. at which point BSM & Myself can decide on how to proceed.

 

[TEP]

It may not have anything to do with the forum 'powers that be', who knows Tom may have the hump about something else? Yet if it is, as you say it would be nice to know why.

 

[loz]

Sorry to hear something is amiss !

Any explainations from the admin's?

Tom has done nothing wrong here that i can see.

Awaiting PUBLIC explaination from Powers that be..........

Loz

 

[Jenx]

Precisely Tam.

Whcih is why the question is posed to the 'Powers That Be' as opposed to anyone / any group otherwise named.

Your're quite right.



Edit : Have sought the assistance of DaveL by PM,
Just to save 'duplication' of this happening.

 

[Paul.J]

Who else would the Powers that be,be :?:
Those are Tom's words,and the Mods have been on this morning so if it was nothing to do with them surely one of them would have said so by now :?
I know Tom was annoyed as i was and i'm sure others were that the other comp seem to leave all other parts of this forum out.
In fact i think we were only mentioned once in passing by Philly,to get all parties involved.
As one member once said to me about a Bash
"What's with all this seperatism"
And as i said at the time i think seperate bash/competitions are the only way to go,as our type of Woodwork is completely different to the other types,so judging and prizing will be difficult.
If we all want competitions why can't we all have our own seperate ones once a year or or every other year.Providing there are members willing to take up the reigns of course.

 

[Jenx]

Lets await a response.

One has been requested of a mod by PM,


Speculation is natural.. but lets await the official line,
and take things from there.

 

[TEP]

I don't think this is really about separatism as such. I just don't think flat work & turned work will ever be able to be judged together. Or for that matter put together for anything. The flat competition is more about planning, setting up the project, and so on. The actual making of the piece seems to be secondary to all that.

I looked at the rules with the idea of taking part, and decided that there is no way I could put up to 350 words about planning my piece. Or trying to explain all the procedures I go through in the making of it. Our work is more of a few scribbles then a impromptu mingling of thought and ability at the moment, not put together over a period of weeks.

Enough of my ramblings, one thing that does have me puzzled is how the competition could be stopped anyway. What would they do, bar all the participants? Don't think any forum would last very long with out 'forumites' to populate it. Cool word eh! Also what harm was being done?

 

[Jenx]

Dave's read the PM ...
And one can but assume that he's looking into it and speaking with the moderator team.

We need to give them a chance to discuss and respond, as the logistics involved in that kind of exercise are bound to be a bit tricky, and time consuming. ( well I know they are, having been an "admin" on a UK Wide PHPBB board in the past. ).

I'm guessing comment / explanation will follow in due course...
It will take a wee bit of time for this to happen, thats to be understandable.

 

[wizer]

Don't want to be the harbinger of doom, but when Blister offered a turning idea for the members of this part of the forum a little while back, it fell at the first hurdle.

Don't get me wrong, the idea is OK, and the initial enthusiasm is there, but for how long?

I'm not shy in coming forward, so. "I told you so!" Too many cooks, and so on. Also, if you can't stand the heat, don't take a job as a stoker! Looks like a fallen cause.

Before anyone says, "You can do it." No thank you, I don't want to impose my ideas on anyone, or many. Did that for too long when I was working.

Tam, until you posted this comments, I didn't have the 'hump' about anything at all. But you really have offended me here. You've made assumptions about things you have no clue about and criticised my character. I'm not sure what I did to offend you or anyone else by trying to raise interest in a community activity. I'd suggest you keep your scathing comments to yourself if they are not in any way constructive.

To put it bluntly I'm just not interested in getting it in the neck for trying to help everyone out.

 

[big soft moose]

To put it bluntly I'm just not interested in getting it in the neck for trying to help everyone out.

and i can't say that i blame you mate, - leaving tams comments aside i'm sure no one (else) is having a pop at you for dropping the competition idea as something has clearly happened to upset or agreive you.

This may well be a case of least said soonest mended and i dont want to stir the pot.

however it would be good if we could nail down who the powers that be are ( a moderator , moderators collectively, charley or just a long term member or members ) and what the problem is/was

I understand that you probably dont want to go into it on the open board but maybe you could let me know the S.P by pm as neither I (nor i assume jenx) want to get it in the neck either if we pick up the batten.

 

[TEP]

Tom, if you are looking for a whipping boy, you go ahead. I only say things as I see them, and ALL my comments are on record for all to see. If anyone thinks I have made a poor statement then so be it. I fail to see how anything I have said could be taken as 'offensive', all myself and the others where doing was wondering what had happened, and why it had all fallen flat.

If you don't deem it necessary to let us all know what is going on, then you must expect, and indeed accept some sort of discussion as we wonder what has been said or has happened to cause this.

I can understand you feeling some grievance for what has happened, to which as you say I am not privy, but to lash out when I DON'T know what is going on is a little petty to say the least.

If you are saying I caused your problems, then I can only apologise, but would be grateful if you could explain how & when I have done so.

 

[stevebuk]

Come on guys lets not get into falling out over it, its just a forum who wants a competition, no need for finger pointing and remarks so lets just let the Mods decide what we can and cant have eh, chin up guys.

 

[wizer]

This is all getting blown out of proportion. I was told that I had no business setting up a competition without getting prior permission. I'm not offended by that but I think I was spoken down to by someone who hadn't fully looked at the situation and spoke out of turn.

I decided to pull out because I have some prety serious medical issues and I really don't need to be going round and round in circles with yet another body of governance.

Tam you offended me by making assumptions that I was giving up because 'I couldn't handle it' or I was 'spitting my dummy out'. At no point in the 4yrs I've been joined to this forum have I acted in or been treated in such a way. I suggest, if you are not in full possession of the facts, that you keep your comments to your self. I'm not sure how I could be making you my 'whipping boy'. This, at no point, had anything to do with you.

 

[big soft moose]

This is all getting blown out of proportion. I was told that I had no business setting up a competition without getting prior permission. .

thanks for clearing that up wizer - I guess me and jenx can pick the batten up from here and try to get permision as it would be a shame to let this idea go given the degree of interest.

I guess the best thing would be for us to wait and see what if anything comes from aluns pm to dave L and then if necessary I'll contact charley.

In the meantime i'd suggest that people keep expressing interest on the other thread as this will help us make our case for a round world comp , but everyone please bear in mind that it is an idea only until official permision is granted.

(and re the contretemps with tom and tam can you two please kiss and make up - you are both valuable forum members and this kind of falling out saddens me - and i would guess others - greatly)

 

[Bodrighy]

(and re the contretemps with tom and tam can you two please kiss and make up - you are both valuable forum members and this kind of falling out saddens me - and i would guess others - greatly)

=D> =D>

Pete