Jacob
What goes around comes around.
We should have been phasing it out for years. The longer we leave it the more "immediate" will be the consequences.
Climate change policy
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selectortone
Still waking up not dead in the morning
Ask one of them to show you how it works. I find mine indispensable now. Like carrying my laptop around in my pocket. In fact I can't remember the last time I used my laptop!
Blackswanwood
Still Learning
By that logic we should ramp our use of fossil fuels up until India catches up
You berated people not so long ago about a perceived inability to think positively and take on challenges yet here you are wanting to just accept the lowest common denominator.
If we develop the technology and lead the way we prosper. If we don't we will be less competitive in the medium term. We don't need hobble our economy to do it.
When you are already on the Pc writing code for DSP algorithms it makes a nice break from the slog !
But once upon a time mummy did not have to go to work and spent her time bringing up the kid or kids and would sit down and watch childrens Tv with them and then the Tv went off and you went out and played with real friends or walked down the shops with mum as dad used the car for work and mum did not drive. Now seems like they are driven everywhere and get ignored to much.
ey_tony
Established Member
Can you provide some reputable source which supports the claim that achieving net zero by 2050 will NOT adversely affect industry and the people of the UK?
It will come at a huge cost and make out industries uncompetitive I've no doubt and if not properly managed will harm our economy and the living standards of the people of this country and for what?
It will make virtually no difference to the total world output whatever we do in relation to the harmful emissions unless it's in unison with the other heavy polluters but I suppose it will make the virtue signallers feel good about themselves.
If you're hoping for investment in future technologies by UK companies to lead the world that's a good start but then the first thing to do is get rid of this bunch of lying rabble that's in government as we speak.
This country is never going to lead anything while these buffoons are in charge unless it's to the bottom.
ey_tony
Established Member
Goodness me. Modern smart phones are a doddle even for an old geezer like me. I stick with Motorola.
Straight forward Android OS that does everything I need and a whole lot more beside and at a very affordable price as far as smart phones go.
It can do all the usual calls, send and receive texts, send/read emails etc etc . I can chat virtually face to face in real time with family members, check my bank balances and transfer money, I can check the screen to see who is prowling around at any time if my CCTV informs me of unusual activity, find my way to a house miles away, really the list is endless and a smart phone is a great tool to help deal with modern living.
Phone calls are the least of my demands of my phone.. it's all the other things which it can do that makes it a no-brainer for me to own one but then again each to their own and for some people the good old Nokia will suffice.
The best thing to do is experiment with it. Kids will pick up things far more quickly where technology is concerned simply because unlike more mature people, they are not afraid to get it wrong whereas many adults are afraid of technology which prevents them from picking it up quickly as kids do.
But what are people using them for ? What can anyone be looking at for twenty five minutes whilst sitting in a cafe with freinds who are being ignored . These things have become the centre of attention and everyone seems to be holding onto them as if life ceases without them. Could this be how assimulation starts !
Well, if they're anything like me, they're following threads like these with great interest, plus it's preferable to talking to some of the people I know
You can't prove a negative!
Ouch !
That's almost as "idealised" as King Charles' arcadian visions of English villages.
I remember some happy days like that but I also can't help but see it as a terribly old fashioned and frankly sexist portrayal. As far back as I can remember, many mothers have needed to work or chosen to work and maintain a career.
Us kids were all grateful to mine for helping put food on the table when my dad was among hundreds laid off and looking for work.
And in rural places you didn't walk down the shops. Lads and lasses both learnt to drive as soon as they could, and even then you might have no choice but to wait an hour for a bus.
Yes rose tinted spectacles will always see the past as better. I know all my parental friends are trying to find their way through modern parenting, do any of them let their kids have endless screen time, no. Do any of us push our kids out the door to play outside, yes most of us. It may seem like kids get driven everywhere and ignored too much but I doubt it is much 'worse' than the past just different.
Absolutely, with the wind, wave and solar available to us as a nation we can drive CO2 emission's down and have control of our energy sources. It's easiest with heating and electrical power supplies, enabling transport to benefit from low CO2 power needs electrification of the vehicle stock or the use of Hydrogen , liquid ie ammonia or gas phase, as an intermediate 'chemical battery'.The UK’s reduction in CO2 is due to phasing out coal as means of heating, replacing it with gas boilers.
We are at the same point again now where we are trying to phase out polluting technologies once again
@Spectric 's post threw me back to thinking about childhood and how different the world was just 60 years ago. Others will remember more. It reminds me that the only constant is change. In my experience it's better to embrace change and have some influence over what happens to you than be dragged along unwillingly and with no voice.
On climate change, we should recognise the threat, not to ourselves so much as our children, and all do what we can to make our country resilient into a tougher future. Hiding as one of a herd of sheep is short term tactical gain, not long term strategic survival. Embracing sustainability society wide does sound more strategic to me.
On climate change, we should recognise the threat, not to ourselves so much as our children, and all do what we can to make our country resilient into a tougher future. Hiding as one of a herd of sheep is short term tactical gain, not long term strategic survival. Embracing sustainability society wide does sound more strategic to me.
selectortone
Still waking up not dead in the morning
Indeed. I'm not so worried about my grown-up children, but what sort of a future will my three grandchildren face in 60 years time when they're my age.
I remember watching video calls in the film 2001 Space Odyssey in 1969 and thinking 'not in my lifetime', but I think nothing now of videocalling my mate in America - on my phone, not in a phone cubicle as in the film. There's so much great technology n the world now, it's tragic that we can't use it more wisely.
ey_tony
Established Member
What if I use 'i' and 'j' notation?
I don't know what all the fuss is about To achieve net zero, it's going to cost an inordinate amount in order to realise this goal which I'm not actually against. However anyone with even half a brain can see that it will ultimately come at great cost to the ordinary people of this country so it has to be approached very carefully otherwise the UK could come unstuck if it gets it wrong.
It's actually got nothing to do with proving a negative...the simple logic is that unless we have the suitable infrastructure and technology in place to take advantage of this net zero world we're about to enter and other nations are doing likewise then logic tells one that it will heap extra costs on businesses making them unable to compete and therefore reduce the standards of living for everyone if the economy is affected.
We have a government which from it's taxation policies so far, is effectively anti-business so don't hold out for them to make things right, because they won't.
RobinBHM
Established Member
Tony, you made the original claim, its up to to prove it.
have you not heard of Hitchens Razor?
"What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence"
RobinBHM
Established Member
that is opinion stated as fact
please could you explain what that opinion is based on..........shall we assume its just cognitive bias and not based on empirical evidence?
RobinBHM
Established Member
social media is the reason why right wing populists are getting into power
I doubt if a Donald Trump wouldve been able to win 15 years ago
social media spread lies faster than the truth can catch up.........which is why the liars are winning
ey_tony
Established Member
What is my opinion based on? Well for starters working for myself and being in business since the 1960s gives me a decent grasp of business economics and economics as a whole.
What is your opinion based on which says that you are correct and I am wrong?
How many successful business ventures have you undertaken in the past 50 years that would qualify you to criticise my opinions?
I don't need facts and figures to predict for instance that many part time jobs are going to disappear because of Starmer and his bunch of clown's latest taxation changes.
He's no friend to the part time worker and Starmer's taxes have just made the jobs of those in part time work right now more vulnerable simply because many employers will simply not be able to afford to employ them. You couldn't make it up with this lot, they get worse by the hour.
