Chisels

[mtt.tr]

Hello im new here. i am currently a student studying the carpentry and joinery so the course has mostly been bench joinery (which i am hooked by) so im after a set of chisels but seeing as im earning Saturday job money.

My budget is around £50 and below. I was looking at the bachos 434 6set.i do have some marples the m373 which i was given by my uncle unfortunately they had been left in a shed and had started to rust, but before i decide to get a new set would you suggest to clean up the marples?

Luckily i come from a family who where mostly carpentry orientated so i have a few tools that i can use that have been passed down. But my dad is good at wood work but does mostly metal work.

My first project that i hope to do at home is a tool box/chest. Most things i have built have been done at college. At the moment im building a traditional window at college.

 

[mailee]

I would try to clean up the Marples. If they are old then they will be made of good quality steel and if at all possible save them. HTH. :wink:

 

[wizer]

Welcome to the forum. As Mailee says, clean up the marples first. All you need is some W&D paper on a flat piece of glass to start with.

 

[woodbloke]

Excellent advice re the Marples chisels, but if they prove to be a non-runner try the CI Fall chisels from Matthew at Workshop Heaven. I had a quick look at them a while ago and I can recommend them - Rob

 

[Mouse]

Check out ebay, and look for old chisels with wooden handles. Don't worry about a bit of rust it will clean off. The steel in old chisels is far superior to modern Asian ex car spring steel, it will take and hold a superb edge. Many of these old tools were made and used by craftmen.

 

[speed]

i agree about restorimg the marples.

i have a oldish set of marples and are good to sharpen and stay sharp ages.
i was missing a 1 1/2 out of the set so last year i got a new irwin marples chisel and the metal is loads softer, and dont stay sharp for very long.

 

[awkwood]

I have a set of m373 for site work that are about 15 years old and sharpen up quite well. I was given a set of new ones about two years ago, the steel doesn't hold its edge well and the new blades are thicker,very numb in comparison
Stanley made some good chisels 5001 series ,(Black plastic handles) these come on ebay quite often, I have used these for years and have been very happy with them
If money was no object there are some lovely chisels available now with beautiful wooden handles,but theres are not what you need if your doing all types of joinery work with one set

 

[superunknown]

Excellent advice re the Marples chisels, but if they prove to be a non-runner try the CI Fall chisels from Matthew at Workshop Heaven. I had a quick look at them a while ago and I can recommend them - Rob

They look a lovely chisel for the price. I'm just wondering do I need another set of chisels?

 

[special bone]

They look a lovely chisel for the price. I'm just wondering do I need another set of chisels?

There's "want" and there's "need".

If you clean up the Marples they'll be a reasonable set of chisels (I used a set for over a year at college and they're still in my toolbag for regular use). I'd suggest getting an Ashley Iles 1/4" Dovetail chisel and use the rest of the cash to buy individual chisels as, and when, you need them. Or some good squares that are still square and rust and dent free. :lol:

 

[mtt.tr]

Was looking around the internet was looking for a gents saw and saw these
thought you guys may be interested
http://www.rutlands.co.uk/hand-tool...et-of-6-bevel-edge-chisels---hornbeam-handles

 

[DaveL]

Was looking around the internet was looking for a gents saw and saw these
thought you guys may be interested
http://www.rutlands.co.uk/hand-tool...et-of-6-bevel-edge-chisels---hornbeam-handles

Hi, your links have been caught by our spam trap, this will stop once you have a few more posts to your name.

 

[mtt.tr]

oh damn rutlands.co.uk/hand-tools/hammering-&-chiseling/chisels---bevel-edge/1310306/set-of-6-bevel-edge-chisels---hornbeam-handles

Can you view it yet they look nice

 

[mtt.tr]

They look a lovely chisel for the price. I'm just wondering do I need another set of chisels?

There's "want" and there's "need".

If you clean up the Marples they'll be a reasonable set of chisels (I used a set for over a year at college and they're still in my toolbag for regular use). I'd suggest getting an Ashley Iles 1/4" Dovetail chisel and use the rest of the cash to buy individual chisels as, and when, you need them. Or some good squares that are still square and rust and dent free. :lol:

luckily i have a few squares i like my cheap combi square work really well and is square lol

 

[misterfish]

The steel in old chisels is far superior to modern Asian ex car spring steel...

I didn't realise that was a recognised use. Back in the 70s I was one of the botanists on a scientific expedition to the highlands of central Sulawesi in Indonesia where all the local tribesmen used parangs (type of machete) made from the springs of Morris Minor cars. I've still got one I brought back and despite heavy use in tropical rain forest and home gardens it sharpens well and still holds a good edge. They reckoned that the steel Morris used was much better than any other car springs!

Misterfish

 

[woodbloke]

Excellent advice re the Marples chisels, but if they prove to be a non-runner try the CI Fall chisels from Matthew at Workshop Heaven. I had a quick look at them a while ago and I can recommend them - Rob

They look a lovely chisel for the price. I'm just wondering do I need another set of chisels?

Matthew sent me one of the original CI Fall chisels with the fairly rubbish handles. The quality of the steel is really excellent (as you'd expect coming from Sweden) but the handles let them down (in common with lots of continental chisels IMO) Since then, Matthew has contracted someone to make some much better traditional beech handles with an oiled finish (if memory serves) and I believe he's fitted them himself to the CI Fall blades.
I appreciate that there's a difference between 'need' and 'want' as others have indicated but if you're in the market for a really excellent set of chisels at a reasonable cost, then the CI Fall chisels would take some beating - Rob

 

[mtt.tr]

Well i took another look at the maprles and started to clean them with some sand paper on a flat surface and they came out ok then used some autosol on some fine wet and dry and they are now very smooth only need to do 2 more

 

[mtt.tr]

I was wondering if new marples m373 are as good as the old ones?

 

[awkwood]

The handles look and feel the same, but thats where the similarity ends.
The blade doesnt hold its edge as well and they are thicker and feel numb. They are ground differently too, if you hold them side by side they are very different. i think they are made in another country now

 

[mtt.tr]

hmm im after a 10mm mortice chisel from that range but think i will look at another company damn shame good company's like this get ruined

 

[awkwood]

There is probably a lower demand for for m773 mortice chisels so there may be a chance that they are still the original sheffield made ones. Keep an eye on ebay there is a new 8mm and 1/4" one on there now