Chipbreaker on a 608

[Dovetaildave]

The ostioarthritis is now moving into my fingers and I've decided to buy some of tools I've always wanted before its too late.

It's taken me nearly 30 years to do it but finally a No8 to sit next to the QS 7, in the space made three years ago in plane the till, I was really happy when the 608 appeared two weeks ago on ebay (BIN), sellers feedback 2126 and 100%........ a safe bet?

Parcelforce/Queenie squeezed me yesterday for £48 taxes, today they delivered it.

The problem....The nasty drilled out slot in the chipbreaker is too far from the tip and as a result can't quite retract the blade fully and if I remove the levercap, it and the blade fall off the adjuster

The slot is 105 to 110mm away from the tip, can anyone measure theirs and tell me the correct measurement please?

I have avoided asking on Sawmillcreek and the other forum (whos name alludes me at the moment) as I wanted your opinions.

Should I ask for a replacement one, or just put it down to life, slippery US ebay seller?

 

[jimi43]

I can't answer you on the dimensions but if you need it milled longer let me know....

Jim

 

[ac445ab]

Hi,
Probably the chipbreaker isn't from a Stanley Bedrock or Bailey plane (both should have the same chipbreaker).
May be it comes from a Transitional plane in which the chipbreaker is different and not interchangeable with metallic planes. I had the opposite problem than you (a transitional with a Bailey chipbreaker) and I fixed it by closing the rectangular hole were the yoke engages with a soldering, then drilling a new one in the correct position. Otherwise you should search for a replacement, but I think isn't easy to find an original one.

Ciao,
Giuliano

 

[Vann]

The Dieter-Schmid website has dimensions for those considering a Clifton cap-iron. For the No.8 they say the cap-screw hole is 86mm from the leading edge of the cap-iron; and the slot is 101 to 106mm from the leading edge.

HTH.

By the way, if you fit a 2-piece cap-iron you'll just about have the perfect plane... :wink:

Cheers, Vann :mrgreen: .

 

[Dovetaildave]

Guys,
Thanks for your; advice, sharing of knowledge and even offer of physical help, its fantastic that you are out there and members of this forum.

Jim; Offering your time and tooling to physically help is more than I'd have ever asked for or expected....million thanks =D>

Giuliano; It never occurred to me it could be a transitional, I think your maybe right, its really long with a hole 120/5 mm from leading edge! In this situation I can't solder then drill (Great idea tho) as the new hole would be touching/bordered by the solder. your right, a good amount of time spent searching didn't find one.

Vann; The Dieter-Schmid is a very interesting website, I'll spend a while rummaging around in there, they may have info on the wooden toothing plane I picked up in secondhand shop in Prague a few months ago £5 (BB :wink: ). The measurements sound like they would be correct, I will use some veneer for testing. I have some large 3' boards of Ash, (nearly) given to me by a mate and am looking forwards to having a go with the No 8, (I'll take the QS no 7 with me also, you never know). I'm sure your suggestion of a 2 piece cap iron will be at the forefront of my mind 5 minutes into the flattening especially with the new standard Stanley blade in the No 8.
By the way, searched HTH on acronymfinder, # 27 Hell This Hurts :lol:


If I have to make my own chipbreaker......... :? I think that will (hopefully not) be a new thread.

I remember sometime ago someone made their own chipbreaker and posted photos on here I think, as I recall they were very happy with it's effectiveness, anyone remember who?

I have emailed the ebay seller and hope the reply is a good one.


Jim, Giuliano, Vann my thanks and respect =D>

 

[Racers]

Hi, Dave

I have made one from 3mm steel plate, I did a thread about it but can't seem to find it.

Pete

 

[katellwood]

This is the way I solved a similar problem years ago when I put a thicker replacement iron in a stanley no4 and discovered the yoke/Y lever was not long enough to engage in the cap iron/chip breaker. I fixed two pieces of steel to the cap iron which located in the slot of the iron thereby engaging the cap iron with the y lever facilitating adjustment

you could use the same process to form a new slot in the location you need

I believe this is the process Rob Cosman uses in his replacement blades and chipbreaker

a couple of sketchups which hopefully explain what I mean

 

[Dlow]

I have a redundant cap iron from a bailey #8 that I am currently upgrading / restoring.
Adjuster slot 101 - 106 from the leading edge.
PM me your address and i will send it.

 

[Dovetaildave]

Pete; I do think it was your thread, very upbeat and modest as I recall, I enjoyed it, cant remember the wife's birthday even my own sometimes but did manage to remember that for some reason.

Katellwood; Yup that is a good sketch up you've done there, describes it nicely, yup I think that's is RC's method.
I used to work at Bexley for a year, your not on the trading estate there with that nice workshop?

Dlow.....My Hero, choked up and feeling very indebted :shock: ....Pm'ed you before writing this as I'm so excited....silly I know but it will be so good to get this plane going, please PM me if your down this way and I'll get a few cold drinks ready :wink: , if you're driving; the wife makes a real good cuppa and I'll bake a cake or something.

Thanks y'all
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[Dlow]

I just hope it works. Ill pop it in the post tomorrow. Please post some pictures one its complete.
For my restoration / upgrade I have chosen to fit a Lie Nielsen blade and chipbreaker. That project is quiet far down the job list at the moment but slowly making its way up. Once started i will post some pics.

 

[jimi43]

I have a redundant cap iron from a bailey #8 that I am currently upgrading / restoring.
Adjuster slot 101 - 106 from the leading edge.
PM me your address and i will send it.

Great start to your journey here Dlow!!!

It's acts of generosity like this which make this place so special!

=D> =D> =D>

Eager to see the pics too!

Jim

 

[MickCheese]

By the way HTH stands for 'hope that helps', I think.

Good luck.

Mick

 

[Dovetaildave]

Well here are the photos, and not that fantastic to look at either.
I bought the wood off my mate; One short board 3 1/2" Maple, two long 3 1/2" Beech.

I had a really frustrating day at work on Friday and found that I was calmer and less stressed after a few hours planing, I really enjoyed it and subsequently didn't feel the need to go and play "Deathrace 2000" on the A40 into London), had to sharpen up the standard Stanley blade three times.
They are not particularly flat yet but hopefuly the air can get to them a little better and the sexy little corner of the Maple made it all worth while

Thanks to y'all for your advice and words of wisdom, especially big thanks to "Dlow" again for giving me his chipbreaker and making this all possible =D>

 

[ac445ab]

I wish you a lot of shaves with that wonderful 608!

Ciao
Giuliano

 

[jimi43]

If you really want to feel happy...watch Giuliano's work with a scrub plane!

That will get you right down to where you need to be before you use the 608

Right Giuliano?

Jim

 

[ac445ab]

If you really want to feel happy...watch Giuliano's work with a scrub plane!

That will get you right down to where you need to be before you use the 608

Right Giuliano?

Jim

Right Jim :wink: , that big monster is perfect for levelling but too much heavy for roughing up a board properly.

Ciao
Giuliano

 

[jimi43]

If you really want to feel happy...watch Giuliano's work with a scrub plane!

That will get you right down to where you need to be before you use the 608

Right Giuliano?

Jim

Right Jim :wink: , that big monster is perfect for levelling but too much heavy for roughing up a board properly.

Ciao
Giuliano

I couldn't find your excellent video on your scrub techniques...could you post it here please.....

It's brilliant!

Jim

 

[ac445ab]

Can find it at this link below:
http://woodworkingbyhand2.blogspot.it/2 ... plane.html
Sorry if I used subtitles

Ciao
Giuliano

 

[Dlow]

Nice to see it being put to use.

David

 

[Dovetaildave]

Awww, I have watched Scwartzies "Coarse medium and fine" DVD, I hope he hasn't looked at this post, I do own 3,4,51/2,6,7x2,8 a scrub and toothed, both woodies.

The sheer stupidity and heft of it did prevent me going home via the A40 and racing everyone on there. Impractical though it is on its own, I think I could say it may have saved my life. It was fun being silly and getting a difficult day off my chest.


Just Watched Giuliano's video, makes a very nice change to listen to Italian instead of Norm, Scwartzie, Robbie C, et al.
Giuliano do you have a relative who's name is Tiziana working in London?

I had a go on the buffer today with the 608 and did one side, don't expect to get the sand casting marks out but a bit of a shine on it tho, will go back for a second go at end of this week or beginning of next. before the Cliffie arrives

Thanks,
Dave

PS Just "saw" something on the bay, gonna need to do a post on it...shocking !! :shock: